"The CDC's coronavirus test kits began arriving at the 100 or so public labs across the country in small white boxes on Feb. 6, according to the CDC timeline in the review. Each cardboard container held four tiny vials of chemicals that, when used properly, were meant to confirm the presence of the virus."
From later:
When he was there, he had helped create the diagnostic tests that were used to identify H1N1 in patients, and there were no issues with the test. The FDA quickly approved the kits and sent them to labs across the country. Within days, the same kits were dispatched around the world. The effort was considered a triumph for the CDC, and Lindstrom was viewed internally as the guy who made it happen.
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This would back up the idea that the tests go global within just a few days......
Would be very interesting to see when those 'orders were placed and then canceled'.......
Yes, but she clearly said the tests were shipped. So either tests were shipped or they weren’t. She also makes it sound like the tests had been shipped to countries in an additive way (meaning, they kept shipping to additional countries).
Yes, that's the part that makes me think that the tests were shipped 'internationally' to our own labs scattered around the world. (If, indeed, they ever existed.)
Edit to add: I think your wording on the request was just fine, because it specifically asks for the test that Messonnier referenced.
Yes, I see what you’re saying. But they either were shipped out of the country or they weren’t. And even if it’s to our labs elsewhere, the tests are still going to another country.
Re-reading the question, it DOES specifically say 'countries to which they were sent' and not 'what government were they sent to' or similar wording that could allow them to present 'alternate facts.' Even if it got shipped to our labs in Ukraine, the correct answer would be 'Ukraine'.
You'd think that if the tests WERE shipped, there would be some sort of proof of that -- government does love its paperwork.
if test kits were being shipped in february 2020, there were mass quantities going out.
it takes months if not years to prototype, test and then scale up the manufacture of those kind of products. so it should come as no surprise that according to the WITS import-export system, covid-19 test kits were being shipped globally in 2017. https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/2017-covid19-testkits.pdf
and tom renz has a military whistleblower who has evidence of being injected with a covid-19 vaccine in 2013.
katherine watt has documented how vastly the plandemic was planned on the legal and legislative side, over many decades. so it makes sense that in the meantime, groundwork was being laid elsewhere.
I need to speak with Katherine. I only became familiar with her recently, via an interview with James Delingpod that someone sent me. She and I are alike in many ways.
I guess they have no records because they didn't ship anything. The test kits were already everywhere, long before 2020. Drosten either couldn't remember when where how many. Very early on in 2020 some officials in health institutes in Germany (seemingly a central operational cell of the plandemic) openly admitted that they have no records of data or councils backing up any decision taken during the convid era.
Someone’s tampered with the records, imo. Government agency records should be subject to a kind of ‘wayback machine’. It’s ridiculous that records don’t have a verifiable chain of custody and extensive logging to counter manipulation. Wishful thinking, I know; but in this day and age, there’s no excuse for this.
Messonnier began her career in public health in 1995 as an epidemic intelligence service officer in the National Center for Infectious Diseases, a program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Messonnier was co-leader of the anthrax management team and vaccine working group in 2001.
She also spoke at a White House press briefing on Feb. 25, 2020.
"Since the flu plan was drafted in 2017, the CDC has conducted two exercises to rehearse its implementation. There has also been at least one government-wide pandemic preparation exercise, Messionnier said.
"These are things we need to start thinking about now," she said. "We need to be preparing for significant disruptions of our lives. People are concerned about the situation. Rightfully so. But we are putting our concerns to work preparing."
In that February 25 press briefing at the White House, Messonnier warned of the impending community spread of the virus in the United States, stating: "Disruption to everyday life might be severe."
It’s refreshing to see an actual commission looking into what happened in late 2019 through now.
Details are starting to come in (thanks to your work Jessica et al) and the puzzle is beginning to look more clear.
Keep digging. Get to the truth and hope it spreads as fast as the “virus” did.
Sadly a lie can travel halfway around the Earth before the truth puts its boots on.
In one world or the next, the demons that made this happen will receive their justice, but until then the truth needs to set the rest of us free so this never happens again.
As the conference was for a "CDC Update on Novel Coronavirus" and Messonnier is talking about nothing but the "new virus" it is a virtual certainty that the reporter was inquiring about the test kits for SARS-CoV-2.
Odds makers in Vegas have placed the odds at 0.00000001% that it is otherwise. BTW same odds they placed on someone getting ill from a computer generated microbial simulacrum.
A CDC-developed laboratory test kit to detect 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) began shipping yesterday to select qualified U.S. and international laboratories. Distribution of the tests will help improve the global capacity to detect and respond to the 2019 novel coronavirus.
The test kit, called the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time Reverse Transcriptase (RT)-PCR Diagnostic Panel (CDC 2019-nCoV Real Time RT-PCR), is designed for use with an existing RT-PCR testing instrument that is commonly used to test for seasonal influenza.
The CDC 2019 novel coronavirus test is intended for use with upper and lower respiratory specimens collected from people who meet CDC criteria for 2019-nCoV testing. The test uses a technology that can provide results in four hours from initial sample processing to result. “Our goal is early detection of new cases and to prevent further spread of the coronavirus,” said CDC Director Robert R. Redfield, M.D. “Distribution of these diagnostic tests to state laboratories, U.S. government partners and more broadly to the global public health community will accelerate efforts to confront this evolving global public health
challenge.”.”
The test kit has not been FDA cleared or approved, however distribution and use of the test kits follows the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) February 4, 2020, issuance of an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). The tests are being shipped through the International Reagent Resource (IRR) , a CDC-established mechanism that distributes laboratory reagents domestically and globally.
Initially, about 200 test kits will be distributed to U.S. domestic laboratories and a similar amount will be distributed to select international laboratories. Each test kit can test approximately 700 to 800 patient specimens. Additional test kits will be produced and made available for ordering in the future from the IRR. At this time, each laboratory that
places an order will receive one 2019-nCoV test kit.
The IRR is accepting orders for 2019-nCoV tests from qualified laboratories. This includes 115 qualified U.S. laboratories, such as state and local public health laboratories and Department of Defense (DoD) laboratories, as well as 191 qualified international laboratories, such as the World Health Organization (WHO) Global Influenza Surveillance Response System (GISRS) laboratories.
1) *Which* countries sent requests? (Don't let the CDC weasel out of not giving you that list)
2) *Which* countries' requests got cancelled? (Don't let the CDC weasel out of not giving you the list of cancellations)
3) *When* were the contracts cancelled? The fact they were cancelled implies their existence, and if they were cancelled, say, late 2023, then the position they were sent overseas is still true.
Remember, the FOIA departments are masters of pedantry. If there's a slight technicality they will exploit to say 'nope, don't know what you're talking about'. It could even be the overly specific date you provided.
You may want to drop the date and ask about when contracts for said kits were first started with other countries.
Thanks. Yes, there are many things I could follow up with. It’s a matter of time and priorities on my end. Anyone else is free to submit an FOI though.
I would but American agencies have learned to stonewall my requests (given I don't have any legal rights in the US). I can try to squirrel out some informal inquiries to specific individuals if you'd like? Let me know what you're trying to learn and I'll see if I can get them to say something useful. No guarantees, of course.
Failing that, on your next article, make a call for some American volunteers who are willing to take up the challenge of FOI and give them tips on how to get useful responses (even if non-responses). They'll at least be able to appeal to the GAO and invoke their legal rights.
True, although most of the work of the FOIA is in the perpetual chase and checking. Still, let me know if I can help you in some way and I'll see if I can squeeze a task in somewhere.
During fall of 2021, by testing of everyone routinely, employees were sent home to isolate for 10 days irregardless of symptoms. If someone tested positive, they were deemed to have the virus, no question. They were never diagnosed by any stretch of the imagination. This shut down businesses... isolated the elderly. All fell into like, without much question! it was mind boggling to me. I see the false narrative of “diagnosed “ w/ covid-19 continue with questions such at a plasma center stating, “ have you ever been diagnosed with Covid-19?” The smart folks coming through answer, “ not sure” as they realize they have never been “diagnosed” yet it seems very few catch onto this fact!
Sure, off topic, strictly speaking. But good to be reminded of how thoroughly peculiar and unprecedented the mass testing of populations was during the operation. All questions related to "the test" occur in that context. For example, does anyone recall in the blizzard of talking, expert heads that was "The Pandemic" a single mention of "false positive"?
"During the call, a reported asked Dr. Nancy Messoinnier, then the Director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD), if any of the..."
"..If the cancellations were due to problems with the same test kits that state labs were having trouble with, that makes sense....
That appears to be the inferred case.
"..But if the tests Messonnier seemed confident had been shipped to 30+ countries were tests for something other than the pathogen named SARS-CoV-2, someone should ask her what those tests were for..."
It appears to be the SARS-CoV-2 she is referring to.
She was mistaken and confusing the orders per se with the actual sending of the orders which did not happen.
I agree a potential resolution of the tension here is that she was wrong and they weren’t shipped. But there’s no question she’s is sure they’ve been shipped.
Makes me wonder if we're sending them to our own labs overseas?
I think that the rollout we're talking about is this one:
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/929078678/cdc-report-officials-knew-coronavirus-test-was-flawed-but-released-it-anyway
"The CDC's coronavirus test kits began arriving at the 100 or so public labs across the country in small white boxes on Feb. 6, according to the CDC timeline in the review. Each cardboard container held four tiny vials of chemicals that, when used properly, were meant to confirm the presence of the virus."
From later:
When he was there, he had helped create the diagnostic tests that were used to identify H1N1 in patients, and there were no issues with the test. The FDA quickly approved the kits and sent them to labs across the country. Within days, the same kits were dispatched around the world. The effort was considered a triumph for the CDC, and Lindstrom was viewed internally as the guy who made it happen.
------------
This would back up the idea that the tests go global within just a few days......
Would be very interesting to see when those 'orders were placed and then canceled'.......
Yes, but she clearly said the tests were shipped. So either tests were shipped or they weren’t. She also makes it sound like the tests had been shipped to countries in an additive way (meaning, they kept shipping to additional countries).
Yes, that's the part that makes me think that the tests were shipped 'internationally' to our own labs scattered around the world. (If, indeed, they ever existed.)
Edit to add: I think your wording on the request was just fine, because it specifically asks for the test that Messonnier referenced.
Yes, I see what you’re saying. But they either were shipped out of the country or they weren’t. And even if it’s to our labs elsewhere, the tests are still going to another country.
Re-reading the question, it DOES specifically say 'countries to which they were sent' and not 'what government were they sent to' or similar wording that could allow them to present 'alternate facts.' Even if it got shipped to our labs in Ukraine, the correct answer would be 'Ukraine'.
You'd think that if the tests WERE shipped, there would be some sort of proof of that -- government does love its paperwork.
if test kits were being shipped in february 2020, there were mass quantities going out.
it takes months if not years to prototype, test and then scale up the manufacture of those kind of products. so it should come as no surprise that according to the WITS import-export system, covid-19 test kits were being shipped globally in 2017. https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/2017-covid19-testkits.pdf
and tom renz has a military whistleblower who has evidence of being injected with a covid-19 vaccine in 2013.
katherine watt has documented how vastly the plandemic was planned on the legal and legislative side, over many decades. so it makes sense that in the meantime, groundwork was being laid elsewhere.
I need to speak with Katherine. I only became familiar with her recently, via an interview with James Delingpod that someone sent me. She and I are alike in many ways.
Bill Rice Jr has hopefully seen this! I still say, Fauci needs to be sodium penetholled.
I guess they have no records because they didn't ship anything. The test kits were already everywhere, long before 2020. Drosten either couldn't remember when where how many. Very early on in 2020 some officials in health institutes in Germany (seemingly a central operational cell of the plandemic) openly admitted that they have no records of data or councils backing up any decision taken during the convid era.
Someone’s tampered with the records, imo. Government agency records should be subject to a kind of ‘wayback machine’. It’s ridiculous that records don’t have a verifiable chain of custody and extensive logging to counter manipulation. Wishful thinking, I know; but in this day and age, there’s no excuse for this.
What we need is for someone to FOI records on the end of a receiving country.
Messonnier began her career in public health in 1995 as an epidemic intelligence service officer in the National Center for Infectious Diseases, a program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Messonnier was co-leader of the anthrax management team and vaccine working group in 2001.
She also spoke at a White House press briefing on Feb. 25, 2020.
"Since the flu plan was drafted in 2017, the CDC has conducted two exercises to rehearse its implementation. There has also been at least one government-wide pandemic preparation exercise, Messionnier said.
"These are things we need to start thinking about now," she said. "We need to be preparing for significant disruptions of our lives. People are concerned about the situation. Rightfully so. But we are putting our concerns to work preparing."
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/02/25/CDC-warns-Americans-to-prepare-for-COVID-19-pandemic/3651582643431/
In that February 25 press briefing at the White House, Messonnier warned of the impending community spread of the virus in the United States, stating: "Disruption to everyday life might be severe."
https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/cdc-expects-community-spread-of-coronavirus-as-top-official-warns-disruptions-could-be-severe/
Sigh. And how she’s been rewarded for her part with a position at UNC. Do these people always fail up, or what?
It’s refreshing to see an actual commission looking into what happened in late 2019 through now.
Details are starting to come in (thanks to your work Jessica et al) and the puzzle is beginning to look more clear.
Keep digging. Get to the truth and hope it spreads as fast as the “virus” did.
Sadly a lie can travel halfway around the Earth before the truth puts its boots on.
In one world or the next, the demons that made this happen will receive their justice, but until then the truth needs to set the rest of us free so this never happens again.
As the conference was for a "CDC Update on Novel Coronavirus" and Messonnier is talking about nothing but the "new virus" it is a virtual certainty that the reporter was inquiring about the test kits for SARS-CoV-2.
Odds makers in Vegas have placed the odds at 0.00000001% that it is otherwise. BTW same odds they placed on someone getting ill from a computer generated microbial simulacrum.
The kits were shipped or weren't?
https://www.cdc.gov/locs/2020/information_about_emergency_use_authorization_for_2019_novel_coronavirus_real_time_rt-pcr_diagnostic_panel.html
A CDC-developed laboratory test kit to detect 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) began shipping yesterday to select qualified U.S. and international laboratories. Distribution of the tests will help improve the global capacity to detect and respond to the 2019 novel coronavirus.
The test kit, called the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time Reverse Transcriptase (RT)-PCR Diagnostic Panel (CDC 2019-nCoV Real Time RT-PCR), is designed for use with an existing RT-PCR testing instrument that is commonly used to test for seasonal influenza.
The CDC 2019 novel coronavirus test is intended for use with upper and lower respiratory specimens collected from people who meet CDC criteria for 2019-nCoV testing. The test uses a technology that can provide results in four hours from initial sample processing to result. “Our goal is early detection of new cases and to prevent further spread of the coronavirus,” said CDC Director Robert R. Redfield, M.D. “Distribution of these diagnostic tests to state laboratories, U.S. government partners and more broadly to the global public health community will accelerate efforts to confront this evolving global public health
challenge.”.”
The test kit has not been FDA cleared or approved, however distribution and use of the test kits follows the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) February 4, 2020, issuance of an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). The tests are being shipped through the International Reagent Resource (IRR) , a CDC-established mechanism that distributes laboratory reagents domestically and globally.
Initially, about 200 test kits will be distributed to U.S. domestic laboratories and a similar amount will be distributed to select international laboratories. Each test kit can test approximately 700 to 800 patient specimens. Additional test kits will be produced and made available for ordering in the future from the IRR. At this time, each laboratory that
places an order will receive one 2019-nCoV test kit.
The IRR is accepting orders for 2019-nCoV tests from qualified laboratories. This includes 115 qualified U.S. laboratories, such as state and local public health laboratories and Department of Defense (DoD) laboratories, as well as 191 qualified international laboratories, such as the World Health Organization (WHO) Global Influenza Surveillance Response System (GISRS) laboratories.
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/84908
This will not give you the exact answer you are looking for but pages 20-26 a worth a look:
https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/HHSOIG/42002027.pdf
By Feb. 6, 2020 the WHO claimed it had already sent 250,000 tests (Drosten et al) to more than 200 countries.
https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-2019-novel-coronavirus
Thanks, this is all coming back to me now. I have a file on this I need to reopen.
You know how it is -- so many research threads, so little time.
Questions to ask the CDC, Jessica:
1) *Which* countries sent requests? (Don't let the CDC weasel out of not giving you that list)
2) *Which* countries' requests got cancelled? (Don't let the CDC weasel out of not giving you the list of cancellations)
3) *When* were the contracts cancelled? The fact they were cancelled implies their existence, and if they were cancelled, say, late 2023, then the position they were sent overseas is still true.
Remember, the FOIA departments are masters of pedantry. If there's a slight technicality they will exploit to say 'nope, don't know what you're talking about'. It could even be the overly specific date you provided.
You may want to drop the date and ask about when contracts for said kits were first started with other countries.
Thanks. Yes, there are many things I could follow up with. It’s a matter of time and priorities on my end. Anyone else is free to submit an FOI though.
I would but American agencies have learned to stonewall my requests (given I don't have any legal rights in the US). I can try to squirrel out some informal inquiries to specific individuals if you'd like? Let me know what you're trying to learn and I'll see if I can get them to say something useful. No guarantees, of course.
Failing that, on your next article, make a call for some American volunteers who are willing to take up the challenge of FOI and give them tips on how to get useful responses (even if non-responses). They'll at least be able to appeal to the GAO and invoke their legal rights.
It's easier for me to submit a FOIA that to write about other people submitting one :)
True, although most of the work of the FOIA is in the perpetual chase and checking. Still, let me know if I can help you in some way and I'll see if I can squeeze a task in somewhere.
During fall of 2021, by testing of everyone routinely, employees were sent home to isolate for 10 days irregardless of symptoms. If someone tested positive, they were deemed to have the virus, no question. They were never diagnosed by any stretch of the imagination. This shut down businesses... isolated the elderly. All fell into like, without much question! it was mind boggling to me. I see the false narrative of “diagnosed “ w/ covid-19 continue with questions such at a plasma center stating, “ have you ever been diagnosed with Covid-19?” The smart folks coming through answer, “ not sure” as they realize they have never been “diagnosed” yet it seems very few catch onto this fact!
Sure, off topic, strictly speaking. But good to be reminded of how thoroughly peculiar and unprecedented the mass testing of populations was during the operation. All questions related to "the test" occur in that context. For example, does anyone recall in the blizzard of talking, expert heads that was "The Pandemic" a single mention of "false positive"?
Meant to add: the most peculiar aspect was the mass testing - and re-testing and re-testing - of asymptomatic persons.
How about University of Illinois, which required all students to test twice a week? IIRC, in-season athletes were required to test 5-6x a week.
Unethical.
I’m not seeing how this relates to the content of my post
"During the call, a reported asked Dr. Nancy Messoinnier, then the Director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD), if any of the..."
This should say "During the call, a reporter..."
Thanks
TY!
.
Fuck ‘Em
If They Can’t Take A Vax
And Need The Joke On Them Explained.
That They Will Never Comprehend Their Idiocy
- Is The Punchline.
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"..If the cancellations were due to problems with the same test kits that state labs were having trouble with, that makes sense....
That appears to be the inferred case.
"..But if the tests Messonnier seemed confident had been shipped to 30+ countries were tests for something other than the pathogen named SARS-CoV-2, someone should ask her what those tests were for..."
It appears to be the SARS-CoV-2 she is referring to.
She was mistaken and confusing the orders per se with the actual sending of the orders which did not happen.
I agree a potential resolution of the tension here is that she was wrong and they weren’t shipped. But there’s no question she’s is sure they’ve been shipped.
What she’s not sure about is to how many countires