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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It should be noted that many of the policies and other restrictions produced by the narrative were brought about by the obvious holes in the narrative.

Early on, the only "gauge" for spread was those showing up at hospitals with symptoms. This led to some distorted rates that were high. Gauging spread by hospital admissions is like gauging car damage by only testing on totaled cars ending up at body shops.

This is why the seroprevalence studies were supposedly important in the beginning. The seroprevalence studies showed far more people had been exposed to COVID, and showed that the mortality rate was lower than the hospital detection showed.

Of course, this part of the narrative was still assuming COVID was something dangerous to warrant detection to begin with. And those of us who used this to argue against the narrative were drowned out by the notion that detection enough must warrant the accompanying restrictions and policies.

Everything that could have been used to placate the fear and panic narrative was used instead to serve it. Rather than concede that "according to this test, the virus is and has been ubiquitous and thus nothing to worry about," they instead used it to fuel all of the ridiculous restrictions and regulations, asserting that any day now, the mortality rate would skyrocket across the globe unless we locked down and employed all these novel restrictions.

As far as what to predicate a disease on, it should not be social media, but rather reality-based detection. Say what you want about science fiction, but the reality would be undeniable as Jessica points out during the New York situation. If New York had been hit as badly a indicated in graphs, there would be no disputing it.

There would be first responder eyewitness accounts. Not a few, but many.

It would have been wall-to-wall coverage. Overwhelmed morgues and coroner services. Outside assistance is coming in to help the beleaguered Big Apple.

They tried to do this with outside ships and freezer trucks. But there would have been a chain of evidence along the line that would have been undeniable. Except the outside Navy Hospital ship was unused, and the freezer trucks were not filled with bodies.

Also, it would not just be evident in a few places. Any city, any travel hub, should have been rife with the "spreading virus"

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Manfred Johann Schmuckerschlag's avatar

This I just got:

Monitoring the SARS-CoV-2 Pandemic: Prevalence of Antibodies in a Large, Repetitive Cross-Sectional Study of Blood Donors in Germany—Results from the SeBluCo Study 2020–2022

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0817/12/4/551

Offergeld R, Preußel K, Zeiler T, Aurich K, Baumann-Baretti BI, Ciesek S, Corman VM, Dienst V, Drosten C, Görg S, et al.

Pathogens 2023, 12(4), 551

https://doi.org/10.3390/pathogens12040551

Published: 2 April 2023

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"Conflicts of Interest

Victor M. Corman is named together with Euroimmun on a patent application filed recently regarding the diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 by antibody testing (“Methods and reagents for diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 infection.” Patent application no. EP3809137A1). All other authors declare no conflict of interest. The funders had no role in the design of the study; in the collection, analyses, or interpretation of data; in the writing of the manuscript; or in the decision to publish the results."

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To cite just an excerpt:

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3.1. Total Study-Wide Seroprevalence over Time

In CW 19–22 (May) 2020, the total adjusted seroprevalence was 1.2% (95% CI: 0.6–2.1%). It then fell to 0.6% (95% CI: 0.4–0.9%) in CW 27–34 (July–August). Afterwards, it rose again but stayed below 2% until CW 47–50 (December), where it reached 1.8% (95% CI: 1.4–2.2%). At the end of 2020, the total seroprevalence started to rise and reached 18.1% (95% CI: 17.2–19.0%) in CW 14–17 (April) 2021. In CW 36–37 (September) 2021, total seroprevalence was estimated to be 89.4% (95% CI: 88.4.3–90.4%) and in CW 17–20 (April/May) 2022 100% (95% CI: 98.5–100) (Figure 2)."

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Which mneans data were available prior to the debate in regards to the vaccine mandate in Gemany/in Austria

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And then - the patent mentioned.

EP3809137A1

Methods and reagents for diagnosis of sars-cov-2 infection

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3809137A1/en

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/db/67/45/21010f482f2c53/EP3809137A1.pdf

Inventor: Katja STEINHAGEN - Claudia MESSING - Erik LATTWEIN - Konstanze Stiba - Fabian LINDHORST - Eva Neugebauer - Marcel Müller - Victor CORMAN

Current Assignee: Charite Universitaetsmedizin Berlin - Euroimmun Medizinische Labordiagnostika AG

2021-04-21 Publication of EP3809137A1

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The public private partnership at work.

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