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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Authorities love electronic records. They can simply put numbers in a screen and people believe them.

Those of us who demand proof - as in vital records, which are not the same as medical records - and names are accused of being in a death cult.

I think the truth is, no one WANTS to open the closet and would, in fact, PREFER the door stay closed.

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BAwls's avatar

Thank you for your wonderful work on all facets NYC data corruption

The ultimate justification for not sharing records is HIPAA. The sacrosanct HIPAA is quite a joke at this point. Given the fact that hospital claims (especially Medicare claims showing complete Diagnoses and Procedures MUST be submitted in a reasonable amount of time (I believe 60 days) we have the data of every hospital patient in america in the EHR.

DE-IDENTIFYING such data is a trivial exercise for any COMPETENT data analyst. That we do not have access to DE-IDENTIFIED hospital data (at the very least IN-AGGREGATE) is also evidence of a coverup. I may also point out (having intimate knowledge of these medical billing processes, that fully ***IDENTIFIED*** patient level hospital records go flying around the country -- ESPECIALLY to third-party billing systems and **HOSPITAL PARTNERS***.

The most EGREGIOUS example was the Ascension Health System deal with GOOGLE (millions of IDENTIFIED hospital visits shared with google :::: LINKS BELOW:::

https://www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com/view/google-ascension-data-project-concerns-privacy-advocates

https://www.rt.com/usa/473190-google-secret-project-nightingale-healthcare/

YUH think google deleted or de-identified these records???? Hah..

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

A death certificate is a vital record, not a medical record. It’s really a govt document, not a hospital record per se. There’s no reason all death certs shouldn’t be available via FOI

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BAwls's avatar

That is correct. However I was mentioning the hospital data as "should be available" as it is flung around to various nefarious entities - seemingly willy-nilly for X $$$$. The discharge data includes code for DEATH. So all those that died in hospital could be so counted with their diagnoses and procedures for any time frame. See how those numbers tally out with the Vital Death Cert. Interesting study to be sure but likelihood of data access virtually NIL.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

The SPARCS data in NY is all discharges but it's not a time series - only by year.

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BAwls's avatar

AND this could have been the basis of a massive patient class-action lawsuit in the interest of patient privacy. That horse has long since left the barn...

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

I fully get what you are alluding to. When I first looked at the reporting form for the CDC death records I must admit I was shocked. Covid test Y or N

Test results positive or negative. No follow up on symptoms, who did the "test", validation method used..etc. etc. Basically garbage data.

Still all deaths and treatments should be cross referencable against federal disbused funds in the CARES Act. Someone is keeping those records as I noted one hospital chain in the PNW received over $3 billion for treating Covid-19 patients

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TFish's avatar

It’s amazing isn’t it? The promise of electronic records and healthcare data collection has always been that we would have lots of information to understand and make decisions. What happened in NYC underscores the farce of that whole paradigm. The data is out there, but it’s obviously being kept from the public. The word obfuscation comes to mind, but that’s probably too mild. Perhaps obstruction? No, I think if we’re frank, it reads more like criminal fraud and coverup.

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

I agree and there are many chemical means to induce respiratory distress, pulmonary edema or a coma and death. "We did everything we could." "See the patient tested positive" "Mark it as a Covid-19 death."

Reminded in a macabre way of that bowling scene in The Big Lebowski. "This isn't Nam, this is bowling, there are rules."

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TFish's avatar

A key piece of the data that Jessica Hocket revealed is the huge number of cardiac deaths in NYC. Not pneumonia or SARS. Fatal heart attacks. Pair that with the lack of similarly scaled events…and chemical agents do not seem crazy at all.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Yes, there was a massive & sudden rise in pronounced dead cardiac arrest dispatches at point of ambulance pick-up (which is corroborated by cause of death data for deaths occurring at home).

If the data are unmanipulated and represent a real-time event, it is strongly suggestive of some kind of poisoning. Tainted medications/super charged illicit drug supply is a possibility I've offered, simply because it's "easy" for perpetrators to control - and a "sure thing".

But I'm not sure a poisoning would be the relatively neat curve we see for pronounced dead dispatches. The deaths would be more jagged/erratic.

First order of business is releasing the death certificates

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TFish's avatar

Yup. There are many possibilities. But you’re right: proof of the toll should be the priority.

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Duchess's avatar

And you know what else TFish? This is what the Day Tapes mean when humans can hold two opposite facts in their heads at the same time....we need digital records so we can respond better and their are less mistakes.

But ask for the numbers and ID of patients on ventilators and their ultimate fate.....

Nope, we can't give you that info.

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cattleman's avatar

From my experience this digital world is for ease of use.

Which translates into ease of manipulation and difficulty in conformation of the data.

Unfortunately, this is situation we’re in here with this proposed spike in NYC

I have begun to question much smaller municipalities as well

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Duchess's avatar

TFISH, you couldn't have put it any better.

And now WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET DIGITAL HEALTH ID?

Because it is more efficient?

XXXX you to the digital health records and ID evil doers and the horses you rode in on.

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TFish's avatar

“It’s for your own good, Duchess. Just accept it and trust”

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Free Radical's avatar

So true! Next they're going to start trying to reduce childhood disease incidence. Then the next thing they'll want to find a cure for cystic fibrosis, then eradicate polio!

So outrageous!

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Doug Young's avatar

Remember Dr. (& Minnesota State Senator) Scott Jensen on FOX News, on April 9th, 2020, about Hospital Medicare reimbursements during that time:

"Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you'll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much.". Might there be a way of parsing out ventilator use data by the Medicare co-pays in these hospitals? Of course it would only be for over 65's, but it could be very helpful. Not sure how easy that info is to retrieve, but these are Federal payments, not local or state.

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Duchess's avatar

Turns out it was over 100,000. But Dough Young...maybe the medicare records are a place to start? Dr. Bryan Ardis went through them and discovered they were remdesiviring people to death...he counted up the payments and matched them with the renal failure.

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Jill Shank's avatar

This is such an important story. ICAN’s attorney Aaron Siri has had tremendous success suing for data the government wants to hide. They (ICAN) might see a story like this outside their main focus but maybe not. They are self funded. I know CHD has funded the trial for Dr Meryl Nass. It just seems that there should be a way to force this data through the courts. It’s your story and I’m just trying to think of ways to fund a way to force the data out. Kirsch probably isn’t an option. Have you been interviewed or had interaction by any of those orgs?

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Now this is some mature analysis. As usual, the data we need is not being made available. And, as far as I know, you are the only person in the world who is pointing this out.

In the future, we also need to have some trust-worthy "inbedded" reporters in these hospitals - especially since the loved ones of the patients couldn't see their loved ones.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Thanks.

In the future, we should never forbid loved one from being with patients

When I say, “no third party witnesses,” I am NOT talking about the Fourth Estate.

The Fourth Estate failed, and is still failing -- and I would include many anonymous Substackers as well as other Substack writers who put out self-aggrandizing myths, are political operations, etc (Present company excluded, Bill. Not talking about you!!)

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Yes, you can't trust our sorry journalists. Still, if I was a newspaper publisher or editor, I would have been agitating to get my best reporters into some of these hospitals so a few "neutral" observers could see what was really going on.

Heck, the military lets reporters join platoons in war - or used to. Could going into a hospital be more dangerous than going into a jungle in the Vietnam War?

I agree. Never again keep family members away from their loved ones. I've never visited a hospitalized love one where I didn't end up raising hell about some aspect of their "care."

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

They were there.

As propagandists.

Two examples, but there are many more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUJTr8Bz58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUJTr8Bz58

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I actually went by our local small-town hospital during the first weeks of the lockdowns and wanted to come up with an excuse to walk around. I never did - chickened out (or knew they wouldn't let me in). I did see that there were about two cars in the entire "patient" parking lot - instead of the 50 that are normally there. I think 75 percent of U.S. hospitals were almost empty for weeks and months.

We needed some reporters at hospitals in places outside of the big cities. As far as I can gather, Covid only attacked big cities. I think the virus also targeted patients in hospitals that primarily serve the poor.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Cook County (Chicago)

NYC

NYC Metro/Tri-State corridor counties

Philly

Orleans Parish

Wayne County (Detroit)

That's all they really needed to get 100K COVID deaths by June 1

Sink the ships and collect the people on the precipice

https://x.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1692707623794045431?s=20

All you need is a test with a positive result and orders to go with it.

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Arne's avatar

This lack of information about ventilator use is a stark contrast to the fanfare for the emergency production of ventilators by GE, Tesla, etc. companies that spring.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Indeed.

Also consider that there was a fast/fervent call for vents, followed very quickly by an approved whistleblower (compare date of video with vent census), and the Northwell study.

In other words, the narrative from the start has been “vents killed a bunch of people, but we didn’t know.”

So maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t primarily the vents themselves - or something called SARS-CoV-2 - but the drugs.

But also remembering that we have no proof that the daily death curve occurred as asserted.

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Tennislady82's avatar

You write “it’s hard to imagine indiscriminate use of ventilators” but in my personal experience, that’s exactly the case. 15 months ago my sister was in the icu with encephalitis. When we considered moving her from NJ to NY Presbyterian, their immediate response was, she will need to be intubated for the trip and remain intubated while in icu. She NEVER needed to be intubated. Needless to say, we kept her at the regional hospital in NJ rather than intubate and go to NY Pres. Anecdotal? Sure. Sample of one? Of course. But it goes to the mindset of doctors in NY. Not saying it happened for all Covid patients, but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

that doesn't surprise me at all.

the bigger point in this post is that the peak census of 2,700 -- no other data before 3/26/20, about the number of patients going on/coming off, etc. -- doesn't allow us to blame the 14K-15K increase in hospital inpatient deaths on ventilator use.

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Tennislady82's avatar

None of what happened 4 years ago in NY made sense to me. None of it. I worked there. Had family who lived in Manhattan prior to that spring. Nothing made sense to me during that time. I’m skeptical by nature, and the reporting of death everywhere! In NY was not believable to me. Still isn’t. I do hope you get answers.

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HatariMama's avatar

Excellent article that needs much further research.. too bad so many researchers are still stuck on spike protein and long Covid. From personal experience, my Mom was admitted to hospital with “Covid” symptoms, yet it took the nurses 9 PCR tests to get it positive. At that point we knew it was all BS. They wanted to intubate her immediately and we not only refused every attempt, but had to threaten sticking out attorney on it for them to accept our decision. I’m convinced we saved her life. If only we’d known that 3 rounds of Remdesevir should’ve killed her, we’d have fought that battle much harder. Clearly there was a multitude of hospital protocols that contributed to ill health and death. And they locked the families out, to boot.

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Jolene's avatar

Thank you for communicating uncertainty and pursuing truth.

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Allen's avatar

Anyone have data on number of burials/cremations in NYC for say first half of 2020 compared to previous 5 years?

Any gonzo journalists out there that will go into NYC with their camera and recording equipment to interview doctors/nurses/EMT's at say Elmhurst, Maimonides/NY Presbyterian on the details of their first hand experience during Spring 2020.

Might also be worth going into those neighborhoods and asking people on the street what exactly they were seeing as well as interviewing a variety of first responders.

I think such footage would be quite revealing.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

I have burials and cremations from the state, but not as a time series. It's really the death certificate, with names on them, that need to be released, first and foremost. We shouldn't have to chase burial/cremation records. And the numbers only have the same problem as the numbers in all the datasets. They're numbers, not proof.

Reporters on the street could be helpful, if only to capture people's non-verbal reactions. That said, it's New York, so getting ignored or an abrupt response isn't exactly atypical.

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The Underdog's avatar

Maybe you already know this too. I previously mentioned the Midazolam murders in care homes.

Maybe you know this as well: midazolam is used prior to ventilation. So if you wanted an excuse to jab people up with midazolam in a hospital setting, you'd need to invoke ventilation as a justification.

My article triggered one person who claims first hand knowledge of NYC ventilations, however they would not address my article directly and one of their lackeys desperately tried to hound me.

Pierre Kory.

He claims to have been at the NYC ICU in Spring 2020 - about your time period. If he's sincere about exposing government corruption, perhaps he might help you (although judging by how desperately he was trying to excuse the Midazolam murders, I strongly doubt it).

You can read my rebuttals to his articles here, and I would advise reading those before proceeding to read his appeals (there's two rebuttals because he rushed out two articles in response):

https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/a-rebuttal-to-dr-pierre-kory

https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/a-rebuttal-to-dr-pierre-kory-part

ICU specialists are *very* tetchy about Midazolam and the overuse of it. If you want an idea of drugs used in ICU, eyeball this article, which dissects one ICU specialist's photograph of the various drugs they use:

https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/death-by-dehydration-in-icu

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I just launched a “demonstration project” where, with the support of Substack readers, I hope to make history and show that Substack readers are not amused by the captured MSM … and they can and will support Substack authors. I appreciate all Substack reader who take the time to read my “Open Letter.” We’re all in this together. It’s Substack’s READERS who will ultimately determine how much influence Substack has in our battle against our captured elite institutions.

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-readers-and-supporters?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

Meanwhile, China is putting its incomparable Covid data to creative use...

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Meanwhile when?

Now?

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

Now.

$21 billion for Covid this year, much spent on totally revamping hospital ventilation.

A Belgian acquaintance in BJ visited a hospital for me, and spoke to an MD friend, who confirmed that it's a big deal.

They dedicated a supercomputer to data crunching in 2020, and are publishing analyses in the Chinese medical literature and CCDC handouts.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

This article is about use of mechanical ventilators, not HVAC

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

Sorry. China has no data on ventilators, since they were scarcely used.

It does have far more –and more valuable–data on how to prevent and cure Covid, and that is what I referred to.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

What's COVID?

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

This feature article might be of interest to you, Jessica. It's my feature story about Tim McCain, who (my opinion) no doubt had Covid in December 2019 (as did his wife). Tim was hospitalized for 28 days in ICU, most of that time on a ventilator. Significantly, his wife got to visit him multiple times every day so she saw up-close the ordeal of a patient with life-threatening Covid. Brandie McCain is still unsure if the ventilator might have helped save her husband's life. She did tell me at the time that she worried about many people going on ventilators because she knew how closely these patients had to be monitored and that staff with great experience needed to be adjusting these devices.

She actually thinks the ECMO device probably saved her husband's life, not the ventilator. I wonder if you have any data on how many NYC patients were treated by ECMO. As I understand it, only a small percentage of hospitals have ECMO capability.

The picture with this story gives readers an idea of the horror of these medical situations.

Tim's case and treatment should have been studied around the world. Instead, the fact he was an early Covid patient was covered up.

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/06/25/an-alabama-man-nearly-died-from-covid-19-the-first-week-in-january/

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

My challenge would be "What's COVID?"

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Tennislady82's avatar

Everything was labeled Covid. Everything. That’s the problem with the data. Or one of the many problems. But you know this already. Thanks for digging. I do wonder if we will ever get to the bottom of this.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

COVID does not mean - or does not ONLY mean - what we were told it means.

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Duchess's avatar

Jessica I know you want to KNOW, and I sympathize with your position. WE should be able to get that information. Is there a FOIA process for individual states?

I will tell you something...it is not scientific or statistically sound, but given the "standard of care" came down on NYC even if not specifically in writing, most patients we know were ventilated because WHILE THEY NEVER ADMITTED IT, THEY KNEW IT WAS AEROSOLIZED. So they vented all the covid patients with low oxegyn to SAVE THEMSELVES....so unless I hear differently, every damn covid death in NYC between the 15th of March of 15th of April was iatrogenic because of the VENTS.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

The data are important, because what it’s showing right now is something I agree with: there were not enough people on ventilators to explain even 50% of the toll, in the timeline alleged.

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