I'm not quite there yet but your writing and references are at least making me question years of indoctrination via my internist dad, medical school, residency, and medical literature.
The fact is it makes as much sense to believe in viruses as to believe that there are magic, tiny, invisible malicious pixies that fly around in people's noses and turn their snot into flu/covid pixie dust and sprinkle it on people to make it sick, but they are rather daft pixies so when they see their reflection in a plexiglass sneeze guard they fly right into it and splat against the shield, and also get confused when they can't see your mouth or nose (even though they are 10,000 times smaller than a millimeter and could easy fit through any gaps) so your face mask protects you, and their "pixie poop" can be detected in electron microscopy as itsy bitsy black-and-white bloops and blops indistinguishable from anything else in the EM photos which is the "evidence there were pixies there", and ...
What I find most interesting about this is how (at least that's the way it appears) convinced your daughter is that viruses are a thing. How does a 13 year old girl get so convinced about something they've never seen, never studied, and probably never read anything about?
1) She isn't necessarily convinced that viruses are a thing; in this conversation, she wanted me to state in no uncertain terms what I believe. She is also associating viruses as a primary cause of illness and not grasping the bigger, underlying, essential questions (e.g., "Why do people get 'sick'?"). Opposing what your mom is saying is also par for the course w/a teen.
2) No one comes to a subject or topic "empty." If they did, "teaching" would be easy. The challenge or "problem" of teaching is that the learner comes to the table (so to speak) knowing, believing, and experiencing certain things. As illustrated well in the children's book "Fish is Fish", sometimes, when new information gets mixed with pre-existing ideas, the result is serious misconceptions. https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/fish-is-fish (Similar idea in results of this study: Vosniadou, S., Brewer, W.F. (1989). The concept of the earth's shape: A study of conceptual change in childhood. Unpublished paper. Center for the Study of Reading. University of Illinois, Champaign, IL)
3) My daughter gets "inputs" about COVID and biology from her science classes, in addition to other sources. Mike Yeadon mentioned "Contagion" and other disease movies, which my daughter hasn't seen, but films, TV shows, media, public health advertisements, pharmacies etc are replete with all kinds of implicit and explicit messages about viruses and illness.
4) There is a substantive body of literature on scientific misconceptions - i.e., how they develop, why they're hard to un-do, etc. A great example of this is in "A Private Universe" (which I used to use in teacher PD all the time): https://vimeo.com/113349804 Whence the misconceptions about phases of the moon, what causes the seasons, etc.? Multiple places, including one's own experiences. My hypothesis about the origins of the "seasons" misconception is a) thinking that seasons are cause by the earth's proximity to the sun resonates with how many people experience the seasons ("the sun must be farther away in the winter because I am cold in the winter"), and b) terrible textbook diagrams like this one: https://substack.com/profile/32813354-jessica-hockett/note/c-106239190?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=jjay2 A video such as this one can help "undo" the misconception: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lP146KA5A
Bringing things back to viruses: I'm actually less concerned about my daughter at this stage than I am about "real scientists" of various kinds who don't seem to be able to unhinge themselves from what they learned in grad/med school, or from the articles and books they've already written to take a more honest look at what does and does not constitute evidence. There are exceptions, but most PhDs (regardless of field) don't tend to become MORE likely to upend their body of work as they age.
In my research into viruses I eventually stumbled into "HERVs" (human endogenous retroviruses). Apparently when they sequence "viruses" (remember: in a cell culture probably already containing human DNA) they will "find the viral sequences". Then when they sequence human DNA by itself, they .... ALSO ... "find viral sequences".
They interpret this as "retroviruses infected our ancestors millions of years ago and fundamentally altered our DNA, such that viral sequences are actually *IN* us since birth."
Well, ok, that's one way to interpret it. Maybe that's even true. Maybe that's how "evolution" works, viral infiltration altering species over time.
Another interpretation that is just as legitimate is that "viruses" are "part of us" - and everything - and they exist all over. So, the presence of "virus" is as informative as "the presence of CO2 or O2 in the atmosphere". In this case the presence of absence of "virus" is not as relevant as, say, the relative proportion of "virus".
Another interpretation that is also as legitimate, is that DNA sequencing technology is based on flawed assumptions - or just an outright fraud - prone to illusory results, that could be interpreted as "virus" or not depending on your perspective.
Etc.
My personal opinion is that the people perpetrating the contagious disease fraud have been thumbing their noses at all of us for at least two centuries. "Virus" is a Latin word that means snake venom or liquid poison. It derives from an ancient Indo-European root word, again referring to the same. A rabbit hole I got into is the widespread use of inorganic arsenic compounds from the early 1800s through to even today - in sheep dip, pesticides, lumber, paint, cosmetics, fertilizers, detergents, antibiotics, chemotherapy, etc. Even in the early bronze-ages bronze was not a copper-tin alloy but a copper-arsenic alloy. Imagine cooking your food in arsenical bronze your whole life. Arsenic poisoning can cause a variety of symptoms that are identical to: diarrhea/vomiting, chicken pox, shingles, measles, rubella, smallpox, polio, syphilis, leprosy, yaws, pinta, keratosis/warts, and anthrax. And that's just the arsenic. Lord knows what other industrial pollutants can do, and what symptoms occur via chronic or acute exposure.
I'm fairly certain something close to 100% of all "contagious" diseases are due to poison. During the "black death" in the medieval ages most peasants subscribed to (now) politically incorrect theories about people poisoning their wells.
The best scams are in plain sight and hence I think the word "virus" was used deliberately. Coincidentally, were you to filter a biologic specimen sample through tiny fine-grained filters ("filtratable virus") any poisonous molecules (being very small) would be small enough to pass through your filter and remain venomous when injected into an animal, giving your "scientists" the ability to poison animals in a lab via "serial passage". It's also notable that "the scientists" never, ever, actually demonstrate contagion in animals in labs: it's nearly always via repeated direct injection.
PROPAGANDA. It’s everywhere and tailored for every audience.
Films like “Contagion” have a lot to do with it, but (& you might not ever have noticed it) every soap, every TV drama, every movie, even rock and pop song, are used to smuggle in concepts such as transmission of disease.
Even car YouTubers have been noted, during resurrections of long abandoned vehicles, saying things like “This car is so filthy inside that I’ll probably catch Ebola by driving it”.
Good on you. No progress can ever be made without a willingness to ask questions and challenge assumptions - even those assumptions which may seem well settled and which have been passed along as givens by others who have not seriously questioned and examined them; especially those assumptions. The open-mindedness to consider alternative possibilities, and the courage and tenacity to intelligently examine them, is essential to understanding and to progress. If you begin with the answer, all the evidence you find for that answer will by definition be correct and all evidence against it must therefore be false. If you begin with facts and are able to properly sort through them, you are more likely to find the true answer, which often surprises. “What if they’re wrong?” is a question too infrequently asked.
Yes, people exhibit symptoms of illness, however as you point out, the causation mechanism may not be from, the theory of, viral infection. It certainly deserves questioning and more research. For instance, there appears to be a circular reasoning in virology, a common logical fallacy in virus detection, as referenced to Matthew North, Substack. That there is no single supplementary virus detection method independent of cell culture, and controlled studies, such as those by Dr Stefan Lanka and Jamie Andrews, show the cell isolation method is flawed. This would seriously question the whole concept of virology. Meanwhile, what is making people sick? Sort of similar to incarcerating the wrong person for the crime while the real guilty party goes free.
I like to point out that nobody, upon experiencing a headache or chest pain asks “I wonder where I caught this headache” or “From whom did I catch my angina”.
Though this may sound absurd, because afaik, nobody has ever suggested that these are infectious diseases. But wait: who suggested that colds and influenza were infectious diseases?
There’s no evidence for it.
I have outlined how I think they come about in Substack and Telegram. In brief, I think they arise as a consequence of loss of normal homeostatic equilibrium processes.
Yes, there is no evidence, just unquestioning belief in deeply held medical protocol dogma which seems to have been instilled into the human genome. Frustrating! Although I must admit at times with such symptoms as a headache or increased blood pressure, I might be inclined to attach responsibility to a particular individual in close proximity.
I appreciate the way kids can put you on the spot to keep it simple. The more we study, the more complicated things get, and explaining complicated subjects to kids always helps zoom-out to the big picture. And I appreciate her stubbornness and insistence to get a simple answer!...wonder where she gets that from...
The full/complete answers to questions (scientific and otherwise) are often quite complex, when studied at their most sophisticated/expert levels.
However, I subscribe to Jerome Bruner's proposition that "Any subject can be taught effectively in some intellectually honest form to any child at any stage of development." (Source: The Process of Education.)
The basic principles and concepts can be conveyed in simpler forms without compromising facts or the integrity of a discipline or field of study.
The answers to important questions about illness and disease which virology, epidemiology, immunology, public health etc have offered us over the past 100+ years are - as far as I can tell - woefully inadequate and (in some cases) built on a foundation of shifting sands, not solid rock.
Right now, the government wants my kids to grow up thinking a thing called a virus from China (or wherever) circumnavigated the globe and shut down the world. I have an interest in doing what I can, for as long as a I can, to make sure my n=2 children question everything and do not simply accept that either nature or self-aggrandizing scientists can do something that is impossible.
I just came from reading Jonathan Engler's article about the subject. As you suggested by refusing to answer your daughter's question with a simple Yes-No, this is a more complicated matter. As others have expressed, I can tell you that I have come to seriously question many-many things that I was taught to be "truths" in medical school.
Do you believe in smallpox or other alleged outbreaks? It makes sense logically that people drinking water from an infected well or populations exposed to germs previously only on another continent could suffer catastrophic consequences.
This post - and my daughter's question - is about the things called viruses.
As I tell her and my son (18-YO), whether or not viruses are the things we've been told & sold is a different question from "How and why do people get 'sick' with this or that collection of symptoms that is classified as a disease?"
I think I would be prepared to answer than question with an emphatic "No" simply due to the use of the word 'believe'. Sure, I have beliefs but I try to restrict my beliefs to those things which cannot be proven scientifically. Therefore, even if I thought that 'viruses' were a thing, I would not describe this as a belief since the claim being made is that 'viruses' have been proven to exist and be a cause of disease. Personally I think that is a false claim and I think that there is no scientific proof of 'viruses'.
Many thanks for the link – it’s great to see so many people now exploring the ‘no pandemic’ position and questioning the existence of ‘viruses’ At least they are within the Substack echo chamber I seem to be creating for myself!
I sometimes wonder when I see people using the word ‘believe’ when they could have used the word ‘think’, whether it might be a bit of a Freudian slip indicating some unconscious uncertainty on their part. I have been trying to encourage Dr Malcolm Kendrick to think outside the virus/pandemic paradigm but he remains convinced that he personally witnessed something new or ‘new’ as he writes (curious why he would choose to write ‘new’) and he is unable to think there could be any other explanation other than a viral pathogen.
He wrote (emphasis mine): “Then we had Sars-Cov-2, or Covid19, or just Covid. Call it what you like. It was new. Why do I BELIEVE this?
One of the main reasons is because I had very direct experience of the EFFECTS it had. I was working on the front line during Covid, helping to manage the elderly in rehabilitation units and nursing homes. I went in, every single working day. I saw over thirty people die of this ‘new’ virus. Possibly more. I kind of lost count.
Their deaths were often strange. I have seen a lot of people die over my decades working as a doctor. Some sudden, mostly slow. But with Covid people died ‘differently’. The most unusual thing was when their oxygen saturation levels – the amount of oxygen contained in red blood cells – started to fall, dramatically. Despite this, they often had no symptoms.”
If he did indeed witness some new phenomenon that caused the unusual deaths of these people I would very much like to know what that was. However, it is going to be very difficult to establish what that could have been while he and so many others are determined to cling to the ‘virus’ explanation.
Have you talked with virologists? biologists? chemists? because there are tons of germs of various forms. Please don't go down the wackadoodle lane of "no viruses/germs" etc -one step removed from flat earth society.
I also don't think covid was "designed" or 'planned' but rather people got sick with a virus that hadn't yet been catalogued (not 'suddenly sprang into existence or from a lab) and it snowballed with politics having 99.999999999999999999999999999999% to do with how it was rolled out. If we'd had SANE non partisan people in charge it would have not made a blip other than "wash your hands". In this connected social media age it doesn't take much to turn a snowflake into multiple avalanches
I believe many virologists sincerely believe what they’ve been taught, as have been most professionals in their respective fields, much of which is steadily being exposed as wrong and in my opinion deliberately so, ie lies.
The most fervent opposition to looking at fundamentals usually comes from people who have refused even to look at the situation on the grounds that they assert it’s “whackadoodle”.
The fact is that every one of the so-called “pillars of evidence” for the existence of viruses is not only absurdly unscientific but, when looked at sufficiently closely, an objective scientist is forced to conclude that none of this is a mistake and therefore the false notions surrounding “virology” are intentional lies.
I have a theory about why this situation was contrived. If people believe in submicroscopic, infectious particles which cause diseases, can transmit from person to person and can be prevented by prior injections with something alleged to grant your body “immunity”, what better way to access the insides of almost everyone’s body in the world?
If you hold the thought experiment that a powerful elite have long intended to seize totalitarian control of everyone, for which there’s copious evidence, I submit that it’s has long been the policy of the perpetrators to steady poison the population via unnecessary and wholly ineffective injected “vaccines”.
I suggest that the virus lie is to enable fear based control of human behaviour and especially to persuade most people to accept injections which will deliberately harm them.
I didn’t get here in a single bound. It’s taken several years. Before all this, I was an absolute “normie”, subscribing to every one of the major things we’ve been taught. My career in pharmaceutical R&D and in biotech relief upon me holding all the conventional beliefs.
I started 2020 by being very concerned about the obvious lies we were being told about “Covid-19”. As I’d worked in respiratory disease therapeutics all my life (though not in virology or in vaccines), I knew very early on that we were not being told the truth. Daily, I’d see on TV people now senior public health officials who when younger were my colleagues, lying. I knew that clinical diagnostics couldn’t possibly be successful the way they were being done. Key controls and information about sensitivity and precision was never made available (& it still isn’t available today). The killer blow landed with the unprecedented “lockdowns”, which made no sense at all. These were known to cause widespread suffering and economic destruction, yet were imposed almost everywhere across The West and beyond within days.
I had by then read the health emergency plans of a good handful of countries. Not a single one referred to ANY of the things which were imposed on us. Here’s the critical turning point; all countries all but simultaneously discarded their local health emergency okdha for no reason at all. And then they imposed restrictions that were more or less identical EVERYWHERE. For me, this was and remains unequivocal evidence of an operation working at a level above nation. Some power had taken over the world.
Later the same year, the “vaccines” were to be made available in well under a year from the start. I knew with absolute certainty that this was impossible. Not even close. Looking at them closely, I and a public health doctor realised they were designed intentionally to cause multiple harms, which began to occur, as we’d predicted, from the first day of rollout.
The harms anticipated were so obvious to anyone who had worked in pharma in new medicines research and especially to those of us with a formal training in mechanistic toxicology that I knew these harms were built in on purpose.
I think I’ve shared sufficient narrative of extraordinarily weird goings on that it should not, in this context, be so very difficult to accept the possibility that there are foundational lies which preceded the perpetrators pulling the trigger on the fake Covid & fake “vaccines” tyranny, vis the fake “diagnostic tests” and fake “measures” (lockdown and masking).
By the way, the reason surgeons wear masks has got nothing to do with preventing infections. They aren’t filters of inhaled or exhaled breath. Instead they are splash guards, designed to prevent blood, pus, bone chips etc entering the surgeons mouth and nose.
I hope this mini essay is of some help. Please don’t be frightened by looking at the virus lies. If you allow these lies to persist, you’ll more readily be frightened by the next threat delivered by the “public health experts”. For they are going to do this kind of thing again.
I’m a biologist by training and, for my sins, among the most senior, former big pharma research executives speaking out. I’ve worked on nothing but this fraudulent and frightening event. It’s all inverted. There’s been NO PANDEMIC (these do not happen because they cannot happen). Even the “Spanish Flu Pandemic” was a lie. The events we’re seeing go back a very long way.
There is evidence in numerous absurd and obviously malign changes in public health law going back to the nineteenth century which leads to 2020. Read legal scholar Katherine Watt on Substack. I advise you not to read this before going to bed. If you read her work, you will have no room for doubt that we face a serious & long planned assault by a wealthy and powerful self appointed “elite”, the antecedents of those currently attending WEF and other supranational institutions like the UN.
Oh hell-Wired did a good article way back at start of covid panicdemic about Spanish flu. Turns out no one knows what actually happened and numbers are WAG that just got repeated over and over until they were 'fact'.
I still don't think panicdemic was coordinated. it is far too easy now with social media, complicit MSM to start a panicdemic. All it takes is a couple of idiots, idiots with power and "good intentions" (usually said before start of some evil) and a 'plan' with NO clear goal, hyper partisan politics. All this happened with 'covid'.
YES people were getting sick. Working in clinical settings showed this. Was it very out of the ordinary??? not really without the 'test test test' mantra.
as for anit vaccine: How did small pox get eradicated? Polio sickness nearly gone? Measles making a comeback with lower vax rates? full anti vax makes it hard to take anyone seriously. RFK jr has some good ideas but his AUTISM stand is wacko.
The covid panicdemic is a standalone to other viruses/illnesses for sure. Without the test we wouldn't have know it was anything other than a bad cold season, which we have had in the past but no one thought twice about it cuz we weren't told to test for a "novel" & "deadly" disease.
I'm not quite there yet but your writing and references are at least making me question years of indoctrination via my internist dad, medical school, residency, and medical literature.
The fact is it makes as much sense to believe in viruses as to believe that there are magic, tiny, invisible malicious pixies that fly around in people's noses and turn their snot into flu/covid pixie dust and sprinkle it on people to make it sick, but they are rather daft pixies so when they see their reflection in a plexiglass sneeze guard they fly right into it and splat against the shield, and also get confused when they can't see your mouth or nose (even though they are 10,000 times smaller than a millimeter and could easy fit through any gaps) so your face mask protects you, and their "pixie poop" can be detected in electron microscopy as itsy bitsy black-and-white bloops and blops indistinguishable from anything else in the EM photos which is the "evidence there were pixies there", and ...
What I find most interesting about this is how (at least that's the way it appears) convinced your daughter is that viruses are a thing. How does a 13 year old girl get so convinced about something they've never seen, never studied, and probably never read anything about?
I have some answers for that. Will come back later and offer my thoughts
Coming back to this.
1) She isn't necessarily convinced that viruses are a thing; in this conversation, she wanted me to state in no uncertain terms what I believe. She is also associating viruses as a primary cause of illness and not grasping the bigger, underlying, essential questions (e.g., "Why do people get 'sick'?"). Opposing what your mom is saying is also par for the course w/a teen.
2) No one comes to a subject or topic "empty." If they did, "teaching" would be easy. The challenge or "problem" of teaching is that the learner comes to the table (so to speak) knowing, believing, and experiencing certain things. As illustrated well in the children's book "Fish is Fish", sometimes, when new information gets mixed with pre-existing ideas, the result is serious misconceptions. https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/fish-is-fish (Similar idea in results of this study: Vosniadou, S., Brewer, W.F. (1989). The concept of the earth's shape: A study of conceptual change in childhood. Unpublished paper. Center for the Study of Reading. University of Illinois, Champaign, IL)
3) My daughter gets "inputs" about COVID and biology from her science classes, in addition to other sources. Mike Yeadon mentioned "Contagion" and other disease movies, which my daughter hasn't seen, but films, TV shows, media, public health advertisements, pharmacies etc are replete with all kinds of implicit and explicit messages about viruses and illness.
4) There is a substantive body of literature on scientific misconceptions - i.e., how they develop, why they're hard to un-do, etc. A great example of this is in "A Private Universe" (which I used to use in teacher PD all the time): https://vimeo.com/113349804 Whence the misconceptions about phases of the moon, what causes the seasons, etc.? Multiple places, including one's own experiences. My hypothesis about the origins of the "seasons" misconception is a) thinking that seasons are cause by the earth's proximity to the sun resonates with how many people experience the seasons ("the sun must be farther away in the winter because I am cold in the winter"), and b) terrible textbook diagrams like this one: https://substack.com/profile/32813354-jessica-hockett/note/c-106239190?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=jjay2 A video such as this one can help "undo" the misconception: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lP146KA5A
Bringing things back to viruses: I'm actually less concerned about my daughter at this stage than I am about "real scientists" of various kinds who don't seem to be able to unhinge themselves from what they learned in grad/med school, or from the articles and books they've already written to take a more honest look at what does and does not constitute evidence. There are exceptions, but most PhDs (regardless of field) don't tend to become MORE likely to upend their body of work as they age.
In my research into viruses I eventually stumbled into "HERVs" (human endogenous retroviruses). Apparently when they sequence "viruses" (remember: in a cell culture probably already containing human DNA) they will "find the viral sequences". Then when they sequence human DNA by itself, they .... ALSO ... "find viral sequences".
They interpret this as "retroviruses infected our ancestors millions of years ago and fundamentally altered our DNA, such that viral sequences are actually *IN* us since birth."
Well, ok, that's one way to interpret it. Maybe that's even true. Maybe that's how "evolution" works, viral infiltration altering species over time.
Another interpretation that is just as legitimate is that "viruses" are "part of us" - and everything - and they exist all over. So, the presence of "virus" is as informative as "the presence of CO2 or O2 in the atmosphere". In this case the presence of absence of "virus" is not as relevant as, say, the relative proportion of "virus".
Another interpretation that is also as legitimate, is that DNA sequencing technology is based on flawed assumptions - or just an outright fraud - prone to illusory results, that could be interpreted as "virus" or not depending on your perspective.
Etc.
My personal opinion is that the people perpetrating the contagious disease fraud have been thumbing their noses at all of us for at least two centuries. "Virus" is a Latin word that means snake venom or liquid poison. It derives from an ancient Indo-European root word, again referring to the same. A rabbit hole I got into is the widespread use of inorganic arsenic compounds from the early 1800s through to even today - in sheep dip, pesticides, lumber, paint, cosmetics, fertilizers, detergents, antibiotics, chemotherapy, etc. Even in the early bronze-ages bronze was not a copper-tin alloy but a copper-arsenic alloy. Imagine cooking your food in arsenical bronze your whole life. Arsenic poisoning can cause a variety of symptoms that are identical to: diarrhea/vomiting, chicken pox, shingles, measles, rubella, smallpox, polio, syphilis, leprosy, yaws, pinta, keratosis/warts, and anthrax. And that's just the arsenic. Lord knows what other industrial pollutants can do, and what symptoms occur via chronic or acute exposure.
I'm fairly certain something close to 100% of all "contagious" diseases are due to poison. During the "black death" in the medieval ages most peasants subscribed to (now) politically incorrect theories about people poisoning their wells.
The best scams are in plain sight and hence I think the word "virus" was used deliberately. Coincidentally, were you to filter a biologic specimen sample through tiny fine-grained filters ("filtratable virus") any poisonous molecules (being very small) would be small enough to pass through your filter and remain venomous when injected into an animal, giving your "scientists" the ability to poison animals in a lab via "serial passage". It's also notable that "the scientists" never, ever, actually demonstrate contagion in animals in labs: it's nearly always via repeated direct injection.
PROPAGANDA. It’s everywhere and tailored for every audience.
Films like “Contagion” have a lot to do with it, but (& you might not ever have noticed it) every soap, every TV drama, every movie, even rock and pop song, are used to smuggle in concepts such as transmission of disease.
Even car YouTubers have been noted, during resurrections of long abandoned vehicles, saying things like “This car is so filthy inside that I’ll probably catch Ebola by driving it”.
Good on you. No progress can ever be made without a willingness to ask questions and challenge assumptions - even those assumptions which may seem well settled and which have been passed along as givens by others who have not seriously questioned and examined them; especially those assumptions. The open-mindedness to consider alternative possibilities, and the courage and tenacity to intelligently examine them, is essential to understanding and to progress. If you begin with the answer, all the evidence you find for that answer will by definition be correct and all evidence against it must therefore be false. If you begin with facts and are able to properly sort through them, you are more likely to find the true answer, which often surprises. “What if they’re wrong?” is a question too infrequently asked.
And what else?
Yes, people exhibit symptoms of illness, however as you point out, the causation mechanism may not be from, the theory of, viral infection. It certainly deserves questioning and more research. For instance, there appears to be a circular reasoning in virology, a common logical fallacy in virus detection, as referenced to Matthew North, Substack. That there is no single supplementary virus detection method independent of cell culture, and controlled studies, such as those by Dr Stefan Lanka and Jamie Andrews, show the cell isolation method is flawed. This would seriously question the whole concept of virology. Meanwhile, what is making people sick? Sort of similar to incarcerating the wrong person for the crime while the real guilty party goes free.
Correct. I suspect the things called "viruses" are scapegoats.
I like to point out that nobody, upon experiencing a headache or chest pain asks “I wonder where I caught this headache” or “From whom did I catch my angina”.
Though this may sound absurd, because afaik, nobody has ever suggested that these are infectious diseases. But wait: who suggested that colds and influenza were infectious diseases?
There’s no evidence for it.
I have outlined how I think they come about in Substack and Telegram. In brief, I think they arise as a consequence of loss of normal homeostatic equilibrium processes.
Yes, there is no evidence, just unquestioning belief in deeply held medical protocol dogma which seems to have been instilled into the human genome. Frustrating! Although I must admit at times with such symptoms as a headache or increased blood pressure, I might be inclined to attach responsibility to a particular individual in close proximity.
I appreciate the way kids can put you on the spot to keep it simple. The more we study, the more complicated things get, and explaining complicated subjects to kids always helps zoom-out to the big picture. And I appreciate her stubbornness and insistence to get a simple answer!...wonder where she gets that from...
Agreed!
The full/complete answers to questions (scientific and otherwise) are often quite complex, when studied at their most sophisticated/expert levels.
However, I subscribe to Jerome Bruner's proposition that "Any subject can be taught effectively in some intellectually honest form to any child at any stage of development." (Source: The Process of Education.)
The basic principles and concepts can be conveyed in simpler forms without compromising facts or the integrity of a discipline or field of study.
The answers to important questions about illness and disease which virology, epidemiology, immunology, public health etc have offered us over the past 100+ years are - as far as I can tell - woefully inadequate and (in some cases) built on a foundation of shifting sands, not solid rock.
Right now, the government wants my kids to grow up thinking a thing called a virus from China (or wherever) circumnavigated the globe and shut down the world. I have an interest in doing what I can, for as long as a I can, to make sure my n=2 children question everything and do not simply accept that either nature or self-aggrandizing scientists can do something that is impossible.
I just came from reading Jonathan Engler's article about the subject. As you suggested by refusing to answer your daughter's question with a simple Yes-No, this is a more complicated matter. As others have expressed, I can tell you that I have come to seriously question many-many things that I was taught to be "truths" in medical school.
You never cease to grasp my timing, intent, and message.
Do you believe in smallpox or other alleged outbreaks? It makes sense logically that people drinking water from an infected well or populations exposed to germs previously only on another continent could suffer catastrophic consequences.
This post - and my daughter's question - is about the things called viruses.
As I tell her and my son (18-YO), whether or not viruses are the things we've been told & sold is a different question from "How and why do people get 'sick' with this or that collection of symptoms that is classified as a disease?"
I haven't studied smallpox in-depth but have read about it some. HART article here: https://hartuk.substack.com/p/the-smallpox-vanishing-act
Illness borne of (or thought to be borne of) contaminated water or food are different from "respiratory illness" and the models associated therewith.
I agree with commenter Pete Ross with respect to storylines across time and place that pin disease on "other" people or places.
It also makes sense that 'the people from another continent' poisoned the wells.
I think this is a good video to look at regarding smallpox:
https://odysee.com/@katie.su:7/thetruthaboutsmallpox:9
👍 That’s further than I’ve got with my daughter.
Have had more than one similar conversation. But you've got to keep trying.
"Do you believe in viruses? Yes or No?
I think I would be prepared to answer than question with an emphatic "No" simply due to the use of the word 'believe'. Sure, I have beliefs but I try to restrict my beliefs to those things which cannot be proven scientifically. Therefore, even if I thought that 'viruses' were a thing, I would not describe this as a belief since the claim being made is that 'viruses' have been proven to exist and be a cause of disease. Personally I think that is a false claim and I think that there is no scientific proof of 'viruses'.
Re: the use of the word "belief" https://www.usmortality.com/p/are-viral-genomics-evidence-of-spread/comment/104807189?r=jjay2&utm_medium=ios
Many thanks for the link – it’s great to see so many people now exploring the ‘no pandemic’ position and questioning the existence of ‘viruses’ At least they are within the Substack echo chamber I seem to be creating for myself!
I sometimes wonder when I see people using the word ‘believe’ when they could have used the word ‘think’, whether it might be a bit of a Freudian slip indicating some unconscious uncertainty on their part. I have been trying to encourage Dr Malcolm Kendrick to think outside the virus/pandemic paradigm but he remains convinced that he personally witnessed something new or ‘new’ as he writes (curious why he would choose to write ‘new’) and he is unable to think there could be any other explanation other than a viral pathogen.
He wrote (emphasis mine): “Then we had Sars-Cov-2, or Covid19, or just Covid. Call it what you like. It was new. Why do I BELIEVE this?
One of the main reasons is because I had very direct experience of the EFFECTS it had. I was working on the front line during Covid, helping to manage the elderly in rehabilitation units and nursing homes. I went in, every single working day. I saw over thirty people die of this ‘new’ virus. Possibly more. I kind of lost count.
Their deaths were often strange. I have seen a lot of people die over my decades working as a doctor. Some sudden, mostly slow. But with Covid people died ‘differently’. The most unusual thing was when their oxygen saturation levels – the amount of oxygen contained in red blood cells – started to fall, dramatically. Despite this, they often had no symptoms.”
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2025/03/06/does-sars-cov-2-exist/
If he did indeed witness some new phenomenon that caused the unusual deaths of these people I would very much like to know what that was. However, it is going to be very difficult to establish what that could have been while he and so many others are determined to cling to the ‘virus’ explanation.
https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/open-letter-to-pierre-kory-regarding
https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/timeline-the-young-and-healthy-are
https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/what-australians-were-being-told
https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/examples-of-euthanasia-propaganda
Have you talked with virologists? biologists? chemists? because there are tons of germs of various forms. Please don't go down the wackadoodle lane of "no viruses/germs" etc -one step removed from flat earth society.
I also don't think covid was "designed" or 'planned' but rather people got sick with a virus that hadn't yet been catalogued (not 'suddenly sprang into existence or from a lab) and it snowballed with politics having 99.999999999999999999999999999999% to do with how it was rolled out. If we'd had SANE non partisan people in charge it would have not made a blip other than "wash your hands". In this connected social media age it doesn't take much to turn a snowflake into multiple avalanches
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I believe many virologists sincerely believe what they’ve been taught, as have been most professionals in their respective fields, much of which is steadily being exposed as wrong and in my opinion deliberately so, ie lies.
The most fervent opposition to looking at fundamentals usually comes from people who have refused even to look at the situation on the grounds that they assert it’s “whackadoodle”.
The fact is that every one of the so-called “pillars of evidence” for the existence of viruses is not only absurdly unscientific but, when looked at sufficiently closely, an objective scientist is forced to conclude that none of this is a mistake and therefore the false notions surrounding “virology” are intentional lies.
I have a theory about why this situation was contrived. If people believe in submicroscopic, infectious particles which cause diseases, can transmit from person to person and can be prevented by prior injections with something alleged to grant your body “immunity”, what better way to access the insides of almost everyone’s body in the world?
If you hold the thought experiment that a powerful elite have long intended to seize totalitarian control of everyone, for which there’s copious evidence, I submit that it’s has long been the policy of the perpetrators to steady poison the population via unnecessary and wholly ineffective injected “vaccines”.
I suggest that the virus lie is to enable fear based control of human behaviour and especially to persuade most people to accept injections which will deliberately harm them.
I didn’t get here in a single bound. It’s taken several years. Before all this, I was an absolute “normie”, subscribing to every one of the major things we’ve been taught. My career in pharmaceutical R&D and in biotech relief upon me holding all the conventional beliefs.
I started 2020 by being very concerned about the obvious lies we were being told about “Covid-19”. As I’d worked in respiratory disease therapeutics all my life (though not in virology or in vaccines), I knew very early on that we were not being told the truth. Daily, I’d see on TV people now senior public health officials who when younger were my colleagues, lying. I knew that clinical diagnostics couldn’t possibly be successful the way they were being done. Key controls and information about sensitivity and precision was never made available (& it still isn’t available today). The killer blow landed with the unprecedented “lockdowns”, which made no sense at all. These were known to cause widespread suffering and economic destruction, yet were imposed almost everywhere across The West and beyond within days.
I had by then read the health emergency plans of a good handful of countries. Not a single one referred to ANY of the things which were imposed on us. Here’s the critical turning point; all countries all but simultaneously discarded their local health emergency okdha for no reason at all. And then they imposed restrictions that were more or less identical EVERYWHERE. For me, this was and remains unequivocal evidence of an operation working at a level above nation. Some power had taken over the world.
Later the same year, the “vaccines” were to be made available in well under a year from the start. I knew with absolute certainty that this was impossible. Not even close. Looking at them closely, I and a public health doctor realised they were designed intentionally to cause multiple harms, which began to occur, as we’d predicted, from the first day of rollout.
The harms anticipated were so obvious to anyone who had worked in pharma in new medicines research and especially to those of us with a formal training in mechanistic toxicology that I knew these harms were built in on purpose.
I think I’ve shared sufficient narrative of extraordinarily weird goings on that it should not, in this context, be so very difficult to accept the possibility that there are foundational lies which preceded the perpetrators pulling the trigger on the fake Covid & fake “vaccines” tyranny, vis the fake “diagnostic tests” and fake “measures” (lockdown and masking).
By the way, the reason surgeons wear masks has got nothing to do with preventing infections. They aren’t filters of inhaled or exhaled breath. Instead they are splash guards, designed to prevent blood, pus, bone chips etc entering the surgeons mouth and nose.
I hope this mini essay is of some help. Please don’t be frightened by looking at the virus lies. If you allow these lies to persist, you’ll more readily be frightened by the next threat delivered by the “public health experts”. For they are going to do this kind of thing again.
Best wishes and thanks for reading this,
Mike
I’m a biologist by training and, for my sins, among the most senior, former big pharma research executives speaking out. I’ve worked on nothing but this fraudulent and frightening event. It’s all inverted. There’s been NO PANDEMIC (these do not happen because they cannot happen). Even the “Spanish Flu Pandemic” was a lie. The events we’re seeing go back a very long way.
There is evidence in numerous absurd and obviously malign changes in public health law going back to the nineteenth century which leads to 2020. Read legal scholar Katherine Watt on Substack. I advise you not to read this before going to bed. If you read her work, you will have no room for doubt that we face a serious & long planned assault by a wealthy and powerful self appointed “elite”, the antecedents of those currently attending WEF and other supranational institutions like the UN.
Oh hell-Wired did a good article way back at start of covid panicdemic about Spanish flu. Turns out no one knows what actually happened and numbers are WAG that just got repeated over and over until they were 'fact'.
I still don't think panicdemic was coordinated. it is far too easy now with social media, complicit MSM to start a panicdemic. All it takes is a couple of idiots, idiots with power and "good intentions" (usually said before start of some evil) and a 'plan' with NO clear goal, hyper partisan politics. All this happened with 'covid'.
YES people were getting sick. Working in clinical settings showed this. Was it very out of the ordinary??? not really without the 'test test test' mantra.
as for anit vaccine: How did small pox get eradicated? Polio sickness nearly gone? Measles making a comeback with lower vax rates? full anti vax makes it hard to take anyone seriously. RFK jr has some good ideas but his AUTISM stand is wacko.
The covid panicdemic is a standalone to other viruses/illnesses for sure. Without the test we wouldn't have know it was anything other than a bad cold season, which we have had in the past but no one thought twice about it cuz we weren't told to test for a "novel" & "deadly" disease.