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Yancey Ward's avatar

I have just assumed the numbers of deaths in NYC was accurate- deaths are hard to fake or cover up in the US health system. I think it needs to be accepted that these people died in that 10 week period, which then leads to the question of why was it so much worse in NYC and Italy, for example? I have always had the impression, formed from anecdotal reports at the time, that hospitals in NYC were putting everyone on ventilators ASAP, with some claims that it was being done to control the output of virus from the lungs of the infected. If this true, then these hospitals and doctors killed most of these people in a misguided attempt to "save" them.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Why does that need be accepted when the data suggest multiple reasons to doubt the data are presenting an accurate view of a real-time mortality event?

Numbers in a spreadsheet are not proof of deaths. They are frequencies alleged to represent data on death certificates.

Why should the government get to make claims about deaths without having to substantiate those claims with the records that taxpayers and voters trust officials/staff to steward in the public interest?

As to ventilators, I’ve written several articles explaining that the data we would need to say how many people were placed on ventilators - let alone how many ever-vented people died - are not available. https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/we-still-dont-know-how-many-people

If the death data are accurate, and the near-equivalent of peak occupancy in those 11 weeks died, it would be the biggest mass casualty event in U.S. city hospitals ever. Where is the three-year documentary about this event? Where is the inquiry into what happened in hospitals? Why hasn’t the federal government published the timeseries data we need to show how many people were placed on vents each data?

You get my point, I’m sure.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Day*

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Jolene's avatar

Do you have any data from a Hebrew free burial association or a chevra kadisha? I know this is just a slice of the population but no matter the emergency, Jews typically bury their dead within 24 hours or as close to that as possible. Not sure if anything could be extrapolated from that data but here’s an article from August of 2020 talking about how they were still dealing with excess deaths. https://forward.com/news/444382/qa-volunteering-with-chevra-kadisha-in-the-era-of-coronavirus/

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Thank you, I will take a look.

I reached out to a reporter from Forward.com on another article she had written, but did not get a response.

I've also attempted several times to speak with someone off-the-record from Hatzalah (ambulance company), with no response.

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Holly McC's avatar

Good for you, thank you so much, and please keep going.

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Fabian Spieker's avatar

I love your stubbornness and I would kinda like to look into it. Almost done with my summer deaths article now, which couldn't be any no more different.

First thing would be to scrape CDC Wonder for NY data by cleverly combining a lot of requests.

Has anyone done that yet?

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

I’ve done just about every query in WONDER there is.

Which data are you thinking of?

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Fabian Spieker's avatar

Just everything that can be scraped. Systematic combination of queries to circumvent suppressed counts (0-9) to acquire as much detailed data as possible. By age, sex, place of death, mcods, ucods, combinations.

I'm just reading through your articles. You've been so busy on this. Do you happen to maintain a database, that you would share? A data folder or something?

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

I can share whatever data you'd like.

The daily data is all from the city's Bureau of Vital Statistics, via FOIL.

There is no daily data is WONDER (as you know).

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Fabian Spieker's avatar

What's FOIL?

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Fabian Spieker's avatar

Oh. And I'll just take all the data then. Obviously haha.

Do you still have my email address?

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Fabian Spieker's avatar

Got it Freedom of Information

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

No bioweapon, unless you know something I don’t

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