"Extracting data prior to 2019 from our legacy system would require writing sequel codes and the creation of a new record”
It is SQL - Structured Query Language, not “sequel”.
“A new record” is just another line in a database that may already contain millions of records and so is gibberish in this context.
A small clue that the person writing this either had no idea about what was needed to produce the data requested, or was making up an excuse.
If in fact a SQL statement could have produced the data, then the database in fact exists. For a simple data extract, the statement may be very simple, like “select from (database) where...”.
They are either very incompetent or are deliberately putting you off.
Yeah as Mr Mccarville states the not able to access data is pure 10000% BS. Someone with passcode to legacy server will have access. They do not delete. I still have access to a previous eEMR at one of my rehab places even though we've been to new EMR for >2 years. Can still run reports from that time. They don't have to "write new code" but simply find IT data person with access to legacy server-that is it.
So much negative evidence of 'the dog that didn't bark' genre.
Unfortunately, people get caught up in all kinds of 'dancing nurses & SV40' psychodramas designed to distract from collecting and processing all the positive and negative evidence in a straightforward & methodical way.
Correct. There are so many assumptions - including assumptions I once made - that have gone unchecked and unchallenged.
The best example I tried to point out in this article is the assumption that the lines outside of Elmhurst were panicked people. The city was more or less telling people to come get tested. That neighborhood is largely working and lower class (socioeconomically). Many residents were not Zoom professionals and would have still needed to go to work. So going to get tested actually makes some sense, if we put ourselves back in that period.
Late winter/early spring is a time when people have leftover or new sniffles and coughs anyway. If the city is saying, "Hey, we have a testing tent in your neighborhood, come get screened," is it any wonder that people showed up? As readers know, I believe the pandemic was staged. What better way to stage a mad rush to the flagship public hospital (in the Corona health district, no less) than to announce testing is now available? See 2:24 in this infamous video. Footage shot March 24, 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw This is not an emergency scene. It's like a line at the DMV.
On the personal anecdote front, we're in the Chicago area, but in March 2020, my husband still had to go into work and was in the process of opening a restaurant at an airport. He had a minor cough (per usual, with his allergies) and was told someone he had worked with "tested positive" for the New Thing and he should get tested. So, he went to an outpatient facility to do so, but it was fairly crowded and decided against it.
He wasn't panicked at all. He was trying to do what he was told to do as an "essential worker."
But I simply don't hear New Yorkers say that they - or anyone they knew - became suddenly ill or breathless or whatever. The sudden cardiac arrest event - and young deaths - are the real mysteries.
I'll entertain any and all hypotheses and explanations - including the highly speculative and outlandish. But, in the end, it needs to make sense with various kinds of quantitative and qualitative evidence.
Long way to go, it seems, and a shocking lack of interest on the part of 8 million people re: what happened.
I read these (fascinating) articles on my lunch break but tried a (very quick) search on tiktok to see if there were any "dancing nurses" during that time period. Couple that seems were doing the "oh my gawd im gonna die" from desparate influencer wanna be's. If you are so sick why not show entire hospital room? so sick that full hair/makeup done with a clearly SILK pillow case behind you? Anyways thanks for the work and keep it up. You are the only one I've continued to support because this sham has to be exposed
Whoever wrote this was not close to the IT Dept:
"Extracting data prior to 2019 from our legacy system would require writing sequel codes and the creation of a new record”
It is SQL - Structured Query Language, not “sequel”.
“A new record” is just another line in a database that may already contain millions of records and so is gibberish in this context.
A small clue that the person writing this either had no idea about what was needed to produce the data requested, or was making up an excuse.
If in fact a SQL statement could have produced the data, then the database in fact exists. For a simple data extract, the statement may be very simple, like “select from (database) where...”.
They are either very incompetent or are deliberately putting you off.
Good catch on SQL.
See also a few comments on the other post where I wrote about HHC's "legacy system" excuse for denying earlier death data
https://open.substack.com/pub/woodhouse/p/update-new-york-city-public-hospital?r=jjay2&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=44387328
https://open.substack.com/pub/woodhouse/p/update-new-york-city-public-hospital?r=jjay2&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=44432339
https://open.substack.com/pub/woodhouse/p/update-new-york-city-public-hospital?r=jjay2&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=44450741
Yeah as Mr Mccarville states the not able to access data is pure 10000% BS. Someone with passcode to legacy server will have access. They do not delete. I still have access to a previous eEMR at one of my rehab places even though we've been to new EMR for >2 years. Can still run reports from that time. They don't have to "write new code" but simply find IT data person with access to legacy server-that is it.
Even if they do have to write new code, it doesn't constitute creating a new record.
Women stopped giving birth in 2020?
https://queenseagle.com/all/2024/8/15/elmhurst-hospital-to-get-27-mil-upgrade-to-maternal-infant-services
Thanks for reminding me that I have and need to post daily live births in NYC.
That aside, it's incredible how many claims in the article you posted conflict with Elmhurst and other data.
So much negative evidence of 'the dog that didn't bark' genre.
Unfortunately, people get caught up in all kinds of 'dancing nurses & SV40' psychodramas designed to distract from collecting and processing all the positive and negative evidence in a straightforward & methodical way.
Correct. There are so many assumptions - including assumptions I once made - that have gone unchecked and unchallenged.
The best example I tried to point out in this article is the assumption that the lines outside of Elmhurst were panicked people. The city was more or less telling people to come get tested. That neighborhood is largely working and lower class (socioeconomically). Many residents were not Zoom professionals and would have still needed to go to work. So going to get tested actually makes some sense, if we put ourselves back in that period.
Late winter/early spring is a time when people have leftover or new sniffles and coughs anyway. If the city is saying, "Hey, we have a testing tent in your neighborhood, come get screened," is it any wonder that people showed up? As readers know, I believe the pandemic was staged. What better way to stage a mad rush to the flagship public hospital (in the Corona health district, no less) than to announce testing is now available? See 2:24 in this infamous video. Footage shot March 24, 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw This is not an emergency scene. It's like a line at the DMV.
On the personal anecdote front, we're in the Chicago area, but in March 2020, my husband still had to go into work and was in the process of opening a restaurant at an airport. He had a minor cough (per usual, with his allergies) and was told someone he had worked with "tested positive" for the New Thing and he should get tested. So, he went to an outpatient facility to do so, but it was fairly crowded and decided against it.
He wasn't panicked at all. He was trying to do what he was told to do as an "essential worker."
Do I think anxious people/worried well showed up? Of course. (Pietro told us as much...he wasn't at a public hospital but at facilities with triage tents. https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-covid-19-hospital-frontline?utm_source=publication-search)
But I simply don't hear New Yorkers say that they - or anyone they knew - became suddenly ill or breathless or whatever. The sudden cardiac arrest event - and young deaths - are the real mysteries.
I'll entertain any and all hypotheses and explanations - including the highly speculative and outlandish. But, in the end, it needs to make sense with various kinds of quantitative and qualitative evidence.
Long way to go, it seems, and a shocking lack of interest on the part of 8 million people re: what happened.
The people just don't wanna talk about it - it's like 'avoidance behavior' in PTSD diagnosis.
"We don't talk about Elmhurst, no no no..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWRMAU6V-c
I read these (fascinating) articles on my lunch break but tried a (very quick) search on tiktok to see if there were any "dancing nurses" during that time period. Couple that seems were doing the "oh my gawd im gonna die" from desparate influencer wanna be's. If you are so sick why not show entire hospital room? so sick that full hair/makeup done with a clearly SILK pillow case behind you? Anyways thanks for the work and keep it up. You are the only one I've continued to support because this sham has to be exposed