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LarryO's avatar

When comparing NYCity to NYState Co-Morbidity List, during the real-time reporting on their Java Tracker page of Deaths, 10 comobies were listed. NYState strangely omitted OBESITY. This skews the Covid-only deaths to the upside yet your chart shows a lower overall NYS C_O % than NYC's. Maybe they revised their list.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Finalized federal and city data trumps trackers.

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LarryO's avatar

4 years later, what was reported in Real Time was totally inaccurate?

Which do you believe? Jessica THERE's Your ANSWER!

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Real-time death reporting is not a thing. Does not matter if its "covid deaths" or all-cause. Govt made the public think it is

Related https://open.substack.com/pub/wherearethenumbers/p/exaggerated-estimates-from-epidemiological?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app

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LarryO's avatar

And that's the problem: If you are already dead of something else, Covid gets the blame.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Yes, but it is not the problem I am focusing on in this article. :)

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I think this is one of your best pieces, Jessica. This is very impressive research and citizen journalism. You continue to ask questions no one else is asking and the dots you are connecting ... don't connect, according to the "official narrative." ... And you're still not getting all the "public" information, you've requested.

To me, the fact they made it easier to assign a death to "Covid only" by - again - "changing the guidance" - should be (and is) very significant info.

P.S. Regarding the death certificate guidance changes, stay tuned to my Substack.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Thanks.

It's not any single data point or anomaly that makes the case. It's everything taken together and there is still a list of about 10 data problems for me to write about, here on SS or elsewhere.

Also note that actual death certificate documents are not uploaded to WONDER - and the move toward digitizing all of it has been years in the making. I will add my previous article about that as an Afterword above.

https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/the-cdc-does-not-maintain-complete

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

One things for sure. You've got an exclusive. Nobody else is working on this story.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

The CIA is.

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monyka's avatar

Damn it really seems like a mass panic event (not a new “deadly” virus) that steam rolled until lockdowns were “needed”. Just like panic can cause a stock market crash until it’s halted by literally stopping trading and other “safeguards”.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

It was not a virus event but I think it is important to consider how describing it as a panic event helps the govt/official narrative as well.

What is panic?

Who panicked, how, and in what sense?

Where do we see evidence of panic in various datasets?

What was the purpose of Andrew Cuomo saying over & over that New Yorkers shouldn't panic?

Etc

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Arne's avatar

People tend to do things when they're panicked. The messages from governments were consistently about cocooning yourself and not doing things--"safer apart," "stay home stay safe."

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

People tend to do things and not do things when they are stressed, anxious, and fearful as well. What is the difference - and differential impact - of those feelings vs "panic" (however we are defining the latter)?

Experienced professionals can be expected to handle stress better than novices. Were older doctors removed from NYC hospitals on purpose (under the auspices of "protecting you from deadly virus")? Why were staff within hospitals "deployed" and entire hospital wards rearranging, as though preparing for a bomb strike/assault?

Hospital activity data show hospitals were not overrun with patients, yet deaths were at a cataclysmic level. Is the argument that there were 1,700+ incomplete COVID-only death certificates because there were too many bodies to handle?

How does the "stay home/stay safe" message relate to or explain the data I'm highlighting in the analysis above?

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monyka's avatar

I suspect it started more as a stupid “cautious” approach with a few MD”s saying something and then like the gossip game-by time it made it to “officials’ it was made to be much worse, that spread, politicians then played CYA, MD’s encouraged more caution etc until the spin cycle turned into a tornado and no one wanted to be called out for saying “WHOA lets slow down a bit”. Have seen this happen in clinical settings soooooo much it’s ridiculously simple with a few high placed peeps etc

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LarryO's avatar

Covid-Only= No Co-Morbidities. Fantastic way to look at lethality in a healthy person, thank you.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Not quite. A death certificate that lists only COVID-19 is incorrectly completed. That's as much as we can say about it without seeing accompanying records.

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