In my opinion, there’s no such thing as covid. The global event is entirely manufactured from ordinary illnesses coupled with fear provoking propaganda, inappropriate clinical diagnostics, and lethal changes to medical care in hospitals, care homes and the community.
I think that for several reasons, uppermost being no increase in all cause mortality until a “pandemic” was called. I don’t think pandemics of acute respiratory illnesses are possible. There’s a long history of falsification of these. Way way back.
The injections masquerading as vaccines are definitely not that, but we’re designed intentionally to injure, kill and reduce fertility in survivors.
You join the dots. Global psychopathology is at large. And continuing to come at us until enough people grow the outrage and courage to call it as it blindingly obviously is.
At minimum, COVID-19 is an WHO ICD code. My suspicion is that it has more than one meaning and doesn't mean what we're told it means. Possibilities include Covert Operation for Vaccine (or Viral) Immunosuppressive (or Infectious) Disease, but there are many others. Note the way government and media used the generic coronavirus and COVID during much of 2020. Note the active avoidance of people like Dr. Nass toward using "SARS-CoV-2". It's very interesting.
I agree such pandemics are impossible and that we've been lied to for very long time.
Whatever the causes of "excess" deaths from 2020 onward, governments should not be allowed to make claims about the number of deaths occurring each day without offering proof.
All death certificates are vital records which government stewards on behalf of the public but does not have the right to privatized.
Release the records and substantiate the all cause curves -- that's my battle cry for now :)
It’s common parlance to use ‘COVID-19’ vaccine, but it’s very curious that Fauci and co used the descriptor ‘SARS-CoV-2’ vaccine in their article published last year, see: Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses: https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/pdf/S1931-3128(22)00572-8.pdf
Also, I queried the different names for the vaccine in a BMJ rapid response published in September 2020, see: Re: Covid-19 vaccines...or SARS-CoV-2 vaccines? Clarification needed: https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3258/rr-14
It is very good point! "Virus" is something that only a small number of people may see (If anyone at all, but we are not on that argue). So, to prove an efficiency against a "Virus" is only for the same small amount of people to do.
From another hand "Disease" is something that a lot of people "experienced", even after "the vaccine". So In a court a lot of people would say that the vaccine did not work against a disease. Defence strategy in this case will be " The vaccine is not against the disease but against the virus." And there will be absolutely almost impossible to break such the defence. Fauci and co is not guilty, your honour! End of the case. It is Evilly clever.
Quite right, they shouldn't be allowed to make wild and unsubstantiated claims, nor withhold the data collected by public officials.
But as it stands they have given themselves a free pass on this, and - with their seemingly iron control over all institutions and the MSM - there is no one to hold them to account.
They can dance around, frustrate or ignore freedom of information legislation just as they please.
Even if the data were forthcoming, it would still never get to the public via the MSM, which is all most people pay attention to, and we here at Substack are in what amounts to an online ghetto (and some other inmates are probably double agents, like Malone & co).
It is the old problem: 'Who shall watch over the guardians?'
This is not to say that the struggle is futile, as the truth does matter, but we should recognise that we tipped into near-Totalitarianism in early 2020.
Nothing has, so far, weakened the systems of control, secrecy and censorship they put into place then.
Yes, yes, yes!! I am no scientist, Doctor or health care worker, just a chef who studied nutritional biology 30 years ago, and a shit student at that. HOWEVER, I still, to this day have never met anyone who was so I’ll with “COVID” that they had to go to a hospital. My sons girlfriend is a nurse and the hospital was NEVER overwhelmed, in fact it was dead. I personally haven’t been sick with anything since 2019 and I purposefully refrained from masking, washing my hands (it was an experiment, don’t judge me) or avoiding people. I agree Mike 100% and I’ll be sure to let all hell loose if they come at us again. DO NOT COMPLY!!!
My entire life I know I’ve caught colds and other ailments from others. Usually children, including my own. So I do believe contagion exists.
But I’m unconvinced world-wide or huge widespread contagion exists. Contagion, like global warming, is self-attenuating. Neither of them are the sky is falling panic inducing crises the opportunists make them out to be.
That doesn’t mean precautions shouldn’t be taken. It doesn’t mean some people won’t be adversely affected. It means using common sense. If you’re sick wash hands, limit contact as best as practical until you’re better.
Try not to needlessly pollute your little corner of the world with biologic or abiotic agents. But be practical. Live your life. Be happy.
The world will spin on long after we’re gone. Let’s not leave our future generations governed by monsters that pretend they can cure death, stop accidents, end crime, and fix all that ails us at the expense of our souls.
It’s fast getting to the point they’re using technology to suck the spirit out of each and every one of us. For the greater good is always the excuse. They desire every decision we make throughout every minute of our daily lives to belong to them not us. They are coming for us.
If we let them have their way then life is a gutted, shelled, hollowed out pointless existence. Many can’t or won’t see it until it’s too late. May God help us all.
You may have the wrong end of the stick. That “frankly” commentator is probably a bot and is definitely defending the virus rubbish — so is a “yes viruses” type.
I mean people like a) the commenter you referenced and b) those who myopically/single-mindedly respond to every article or tweet with some version of "there are no viruses," 'it's 5G/neuropoisoning," or "BIOWEAPON" aren't actually engaging in dialogue.
Yes, many straw men but what she is asserting about NYC and other things is really no different from what most anti-mandate/medical freedom influencers, scientists, et al are saying.
It's astounding how many peol are either misguided, making stuff up, and/or are being directed by political or other interests on critical questions about early 2020.
We noticed Meryl set the article up with her series of assumptions as if fact, then asked for a debate as if she were neutral, after "nudging" her readers towards her own bias (that Tess is right and Yeadon wrong). Good job on this article. We almost responded point by point the second we saw her lame post this morning, but glad we didn't because your response is PERFECT!
i was going to do point by point also. but this is perfect.
i also very strongly support sitting down and hashing this out in person instead of being keyboard warriors, meryl nass has done great work bringing the the IHR amendments and WHO skullduggery to light, she's no dummy and is movable with data.
Agreed! Its so much better to have in person debates and each side bring their best evidence and then we can all have the opportunity to truly understand it all and finally get somewhere
I seriously doubt that he is just misguided. All evidence points to him consciously trying to misinform both sheeple and skeptics, depending on his audience. His background as vaccine enabler working for the CDC from '95-'98 and as simulation doctor later on indicate a much darker background.
I disagree. What she has done is to get people watching the WHO show while time runs out when the whole country should get out of the WHO and its mother the UN right now. She is the equivalent of the magicians distracting hand while the magic trick is done.
The UN and WHO are nothing but skullduggery so this is not such a reveal. Anyone who believes otherwise believes that the lepoard can change its spots (and maybe its sex too now-a-days).
She believes in the childhood vax schedule which should tell you how much of a dummy and how movable she is.
totally agree that we not only need to get out of the UN and WHO, we need to seize their assets under RICO. lots of people getting sick and dying and this would be a badly needed source of revenue to find out how to heal them.
i discovered meryl nass back in the zeros when she had her anthrax vax blog - she seemed to be pushing hard against vaxes in general, do you have info I don't?
I do not remember where I have heard it but probably CHD or some other podcast. If I remember correctly she was against the bad anthrax vax but not an anthrax vax in general. However, that she is with CHD which does not reject vaccinesand the childhood vax schedule but only the bad ones (whichever that is).
Watch this at 20 minutes into it to understand Nass and discover an amazing education. I cannot recommend Gigaohm more highly.
Such a good description! Nass appears to be a world-class psychological warfare purveyor herself. She set up so many strawmen in that article that she emptied the alfalfa field!
"The camp I was in hated the vaccinated camp because the other guys wanted to put us into concentration camps, force vaccinate us, and throw us out of polite society.”
There were plenty of people who would have been happy to throw her, and me, into concentration camps, but many more who were vaccinated did so only to travel, work or attend school. They believed what they were told about how great the vaccines were, and how deadly the virus was. I think they far outnumber the “throw them out of society” types, at least 10 to 1 and probably more like 100 to 1.
I certainly don’t hate them, I feel compassion for them because they were lied to, and I hope they do not have health problems as a result.
And I don’t even hate the first group, but I do want them to understand what happened, so that it won’t happen again.
I read the link, I’m surprised that Naomi Wolf could be so callous as to say everyone could have walked away. Not many people are an author/public figure like her, but have a family and bills to pay. Those are the ones most deserving of sympathy.
That’s perfect. It’s one thing to put your health—maybe your life and almost everything you hold dear— on the line for a good reason, but for a fraudulent one?
I agree. No one ever said a word to me in that regard and I was really vocal about it here in NY. The majority of people are not in this camp. They just felt they themselves had to for whatever reason. It was all media spun. As I believe the majority are not in the “pro hamas” protester camp. They know this. They have to use something they know the majority are against to slip in whatever it is they really want as an end result. In this current outrage arena, subject matter aside, it seems likely that Govt actors are involved and a few idiot college kids are pawns. Oh and of course it starts at Columbia in NY as Jessica has so aptly points out with covid. Must stage in NY. Now it’s been spreading. What do you know. Today I heard a “Jewish Columbia student” who knows she probably is, explain that students were giving their student ids to non students who were swiping into the bldg bc they’re not checking faces. (Um exactly how many times did this happen? How many people got in like this. That just doesn’t ring true). So is that our initial soft sell? WELL, why don’t we just get student fingerprints or face scans or better yet eyes. We all know they’re hoping for eyes! Since college students took to covid tyranny so well let’s start here on the movement tracking. More laws, yes more laws. It would be to protect Jewish students after all. Safety! The majority are not down with what’s going on on campuses or how it’s going on, therefore what is it they are trying to get the majority to accept in the name of it?? If it’s all over tv there’s an agenda beyond the obvious. And so it churns to distract and slowly take away liberties bc there’s just too damn many people for each to have too much liberty.
I agree. I can count the number of people I know who are for sure unvaccinated and the number is less than 20. I regularly connect with ~100 people that I can figure out their “status”.
Not one vaccinated person I know has ever said “you should be <insert injustice>.”
At the worst, I’ve heard, “shut up you are insufferable.”
Or…
“It is what it is.”
That was the worst one. So disappointed with that dear friend.
The only people who have had the chutzpah to say dastardly shit to me were on TV, radio or Web.
I always try to keep that in mind when I get riled up by something someone is saying on some media platform.
Sadly, I encountered too many people who thought I should be denied health care, denied my bank account, denied access to grocery stores and finally, put in jail. I found a direct correlation between MSM consumption and degree of vitriol.
You seem to confuse the requirement of utterance and acquiescense. Silence was acquiescense to the huge media narrative push to punish and possibly eliminate the unjabbed. Maybe you were lucky to be located in one of the jurisdictions that wasn't ground zero for the worse tyrannies of this period. I didn't need to hear physically-known-to-me persons verbalize horrendous fascist shit, I simply observed their actions, their compliance and enjoyment of "benefits" while huge swaths of society were progressively transformed into a digital pass permissions-based open air prison, with the most solitary confinement reserved for people who had the courage to resist this bald faced tyranny. I congratulate you if you happened to have your feet on the ground in a spot where the ratcheting loss of freedom was less observable or more palatable.
You want to talk hidden components of all-cause-mortality that I want to see addressed? The number of voiceless un-enumerated people who committed suicide under the dark cloud of this overwhelming pressure and well choreographed destruction of their lives. The ones swallowed by the machine without a sound. Those people will never be counted. At least the stomach churning elderly LTC murders, whatever was fueling the freak bumps and the skyrocketing reverse opium war casualties leave faint fingerprints.
I disagree with Jessica's comment on Wolf and McCarville above. I haven't read Wolf's part but I strongly disagree that it is or was a question of choice or inability to choose. It wasn't a choice, it was a moral imperative.
It was a moral imperative and it is a moral imperative for the present and the future. "Choosing to comply" to "feed your kids" excuse pales in comparison to all future generations living in a globalist surveillance prison planet of forever tyranny. This is the only real "greater good" issue on the menu among all the plastic fruit.
Previous generations would reservedly send their kids off to war, to their deaths, to protect their collective future. Now people make excuses about defaulting to existential needs (as an excuse for compliance) over morality and ethics in the era of greatest abundance in human history.
Those who followed the moral imperative had/have kids to feed and wives, and "adult responsibilities" and a lack of "privileged circumstances" and still went the correct direction.
The evidence that I see for what dispelled the veil of tyranny was the rise of the Trucker movements where real people with real mouths to feed put everything on the line (their jobs, their reputations, their personal property, their physical freedom) and marched on Parliaments to say, "No, we've had enough of this tyrannical shit", and a week or two later Ukraine kicked off and COVID was memory holed. No amount of internet posting or couching ones position in, "I had a lot of shit on the line" means much in comparison. I don't care much about your colorful marbles collection.
The fuckers who pulled this shit are still exacting retribution against those people who made the moral choice to resist. There is clearly widespread 21st century Zersetzung going on online and off. Some of those people "had the luxury of choice" are still in jail as we all pretend that there is some level of new normal in which we can debate those "choices" meanwhile the amount of delivered accountability remains indistinguishable from zero.
The authorities fought tooth and nail on that point for reasons of profit and the necessities of rolling out their new product- the mRNA technology. Had nothing to do with any "effectiveness" narrative and all to do with the exigencies of the EUA.
Documentation showing GoF "work", slush funds of Daszak-Baric and all the rest prove nothing other than money laundering. It absolutely DOES NOT prove anything about release/escape let alone transmission of anything. That is a logical fallacy you have made there.
Adding to the falsities, of this most up voted comment, the alleged release/escape of the alleged pathogen proves nothing whatsoever about the "deadliness" of alleged pathogen and in fact the voluminous documentation provided over and over by Rancourt, Panda, Hockett et al show that there is absolutely ZERO evidence for a pathogen causing mass harm.
FURTHER even more evidence from Italy, UK, Scottish Covid Inquiry, NYC data and on and on tell us EXACTLY what did happen. It was MASS MURDER in hospitals via protocols. Are you not aware of any of this evidence that is being provided day in and day out?
This is what is called real evidence and documentation not ideologically driven speculation.
Those who are ignoring such evidence and continuing to promote the lab leak risk-additive are he problem as they are covering up the iatrogenic slaughter that happened in the hospitals all over the world in 2020.
A little off topic, but Midazolam has made some appearances here in the comments section - and I have been meaning to post this link from the policy wonks at The Financial Times (London) - April 2023 - mission accomplished?
"Shorter life expectancy gives UK pensions an unexpected windfall ...Forecasts could cut liabilities of private sector defined benefit schemes, industry figures say ... "
I saw another one re public pensions - of the sort: ~"experts baffled [by sudden drop of longevity] ... but we'll take it!"~ (that was the gist of it) - when the experts are "baffled" it's time to count your spoons as Dr Johnson once said (the spoon counting part).
And yes "baffled" experts (or doctors) is a definite term of The Lexicon - e.g. re: very recently, young adult cancer rates.
Beginning early in 2020 I saved many quotes and screenshots, and your comment reminded me of this:
“…a friend of mine who is a legit genius told me this in March 2020: ‘if you want to survive Covid, stay out of the hospital. You’ll know I’m right when third-world countries do better; it’s because they don’t have ready access to hospital care like the first world does.’”
Some 3rd world countries, like Cuba, refused the mRNA transfections and instead manufactured their own C19 vaccines. We sent Zpacks and vitamins to our family members, thank God no one died although many were very sick. Meryl has visited Cuba, she has a soft for Fidel Castro and his Communist regime.
I said if my cat had been put in charge of the entire affair everyone would have fared much better. Cat treats and chicken soup are better treatments than communism.
At 17:20ish this discussion turns to the idea that the US Federal Reserve's "Happy Place" is a "quorum" of Baby Boomers dying pretty soon, especially the oldest and sickest. He didn't use the word "quorum" correctly, I can only assume he meant "majority." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aE2HF0jwJo
I did not work in hospital having had my privileges 'terminated without appeal' for declining to take my institutions mandated influenza vax in 2016. I did work in private practice and in urgent care throughout 2020. I saw nothing clinically that I'd never seen before except atrocious behavior by institutions and colleagues. I shunned the space suit and mask PPE and saw many sick respiratory patients but curiously did not get sick myself in 2020. I also never self tested for 'covid' pcr because I doubted the specificity of this assay. I quit urgent care after April 2020 because by then there were virtually no sick patients seen on my shifts that month, only dozens of asymptomatic municipal workers coming in for their mandated weekly nasal swabs so they could work. It was the most disgusting period in my 40 years as a physician.
Thanks for that description of what you experienced during that period. And thanks for having the courage to stand against the mandated influenza vaxx in 2016. I stopped working in 2001. Prior to that, at least, it was unheard of to mandate a vaxx to healthcare workers of any type, at least as far as I knew then.
It was very clear from many published analyses over years of influenza hype that fluvax did nothing to mitigate either nosocomial transmission of influenza or health care worker absenteeism. My early career disabused me of any enthusiasm for flushots since my clinical experience as a "sentinel provider" demonstrated for me that jab recipients did worse or no better than abstainers.
Wow! I am an MD of 40 years and have followed Nass as well as you. To see a so-called expert schooled by a smart questioning layperson in such a way is both fantastic and unbelievable. Her replies, if any, will be truely informative and revealing.
Yes, thanks for the edit. Did you see the comment later down by John H? Hopefully he will provide a proper reference for this as it is an interesting possible method of mass murder in the hospitals. It would also be of interest in regard to the ongoing buildout of the massive "5G" cell towers we are experiencing. In Southern California I'm seeing them being built especially near major transportation route.
“Sinking ships” Gambit tracks since mortality demographic globally was above life expectancy yet public health began “no one is safe until everyone is safe” theory to keep lockdowns & closures, likely to keep the grift and fear campaign.
Re: “I’m not sure what you mean by "COVID". I’ve haven’t read, heard, or experienced anything to that which persuades me that “COVID-19” is a unique, remarkable, or risk-additive illness.”
Jessica- I appreciate that you are debating professionally with Meryl. In this debate there are going to be differences of opinion but importantly consensus that we were unnecessarily controlled by the people that we should be able to trust.
In my opinion, there’s no such thing as covid. The global event is entirely manufactured from ordinary illnesses coupled with fear provoking propaganda, inappropriate clinical diagnostics, and lethal changes to medical care in hospitals, care homes and the community.
I think that for several reasons, uppermost being no increase in all cause mortality until a “pandemic” was called. I don’t think pandemics of acute respiratory illnesses are possible. There’s a long history of falsification of these. Way way back.
The injections masquerading as vaccines are definitely not that, but we’re designed intentionally to injure, kill and reduce fertility in survivors.
You join the dots. Global psychopathology is at large. And continuing to come at us until enough people grow the outrage and courage to call it as it blindingly obviously is.
At minimum, COVID-19 is an WHO ICD code. My suspicion is that it has more than one meaning and doesn't mean what we're told it means. Possibilities include Covert Operation for Vaccine (or Viral) Immunosuppressive (or Infectious) Disease, but there are many others. Note the way government and media used the generic coronavirus and COVID during much of 2020. Note the active avoidance of people like Dr. Nass toward using "SARS-CoV-2". It's very interesting.
I agree such pandemics are impossible and that we've been lied to for very long time.
Whatever the causes of "excess" deaths from 2020 onward, governments should not be allowed to make claims about the number of deaths occurring each day without offering proof.
All death certificates are vital records which government stewards on behalf of the public but does not have the right to privatized.
Release the records and substantiate the all cause curves -- that's my battle cry for now :)
Re ‘SARS-CoV-2’ or ‘COVID-19’?
This is important to clarify.
A ‘SARS-CoV-2’ vaccine should prevent the virus?
And a ‘COVID-19’ vaccine should prevent disease?
Is that right?
It’s common parlance to use ‘COVID-19’ vaccine, but it’s very curious that Fauci and co used the descriptor ‘SARS-CoV-2’ vaccine in their article published last year, see: Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses: https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/pdf/S1931-3128(22)00572-8.pdf
Also, I queried the different names for the vaccine in a BMJ rapid response published in September 2020, see: Re: Covid-19 vaccines...or SARS-CoV-2 vaccines? Clarification needed: https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3258/rr-14
It is very good point! "Virus" is something that only a small number of people may see (If anyone at all, but we are not on that argue). So, to prove an efficiency against a "Virus" is only for the same small amount of people to do.
From another hand "Disease" is something that a lot of people "experienced", even after "the vaccine". So In a court a lot of people would say that the vaccine did not work against a disease. Defence strategy in this case will be " The vaccine is not against the disease but against the virus." And there will be absolutely almost impossible to break such the defence. Fauci and co is not guilty, your honour! End of the case. It is Evilly clever.
COVID = Certificate of Vaccination/ID
Nope, that doesn't work as a medical billing/cause of death code
I normally just go for GOV ID 19
Same thing though.
Why cant a government make claims if it can make you stick a needle in your arm against your wishes? A rapist says whatever he wants.
Quite right, they shouldn't be allowed to make wild and unsubstantiated claims, nor withhold the data collected by public officials.
But as it stands they have given themselves a free pass on this, and - with their seemingly iron control over all institutions and the MSM - there is no one to hold them to account.
They can dance around, frustrate or ignore freedom of information legislation just as they please.
Even if the data were forthcoming, it would still never get to the public via the MSM, which is all most people pay attention to, and we here at Substack are in what amounts to an online ghetto (and some other inmates are probably double agents, like Malone & co).
It is the old problem: 'Who shall watch over the guardians?'
This is not to say that the struggle is futile, as the truth does matter, but we should recognise that we tipped into near-Totalitarianism in early 2020.
Nothing has, so far, weakened the systems of control, secrecy and censorship they put into place then.
GOV ID 19
Yes, yes, yes!! I am no scientist, Doctor or health care worker, just a chef who studied nutritional biology 30 years ago, and a shit student at that. HOWEVER, I still, to this day have never met anyone who was so I’ll with “COVID” that they had to go to a hospital. My sons girlfriend is a nurse and the hospital was NEVER overwhelmed, in fact it was dead. I personally haven’t been sick with anything since 2019 and I purposefully refrained from masking, washing my hands (it was an experiment, don’t judge me) or avoiding people. I agree Mike 100% and I’ll be sure to let all hell loose if they come at us again. DO NOT COMPLY!!!
Rancourt's study of the southern hemisphere is very persuasive that there was no deadly virus. Check out his Substack.
https://denisrancourt.substack.com/
My entire life I know I’ve caught colds and other ailments from others. Usually children, including my own. So I do believe contagion exists.
But I’m unconvinced world-wide or huge widespread contagion exists. Contagion, like global warming, is self-attenuating. Neither of them are the sky is falling panic inducing crises the opportunists make them out to be.
That doesn’t mean precautions shouldn’t be taken. It doesn’t mean some people won’t be adversely affected. It means using common sense. If you’re sick wash hands, limit contact as best as practical until you’re better.
Try not to needlessly pollute your little corner of the world with biologic or abiotic agents. But be practical. Live your life. Be happy.
The world will spin on long after we’re gone. Let’s not leave our future generations governed by monsters that pretend they can cure death, stop accidents, end crime, and fix all that ails us at the expense of our souls.
It’s fast getting to the point they’re using technology to suck the spirit out of each and every one of us. For the greater good is always the excuse. They desire every decision we make throughout every minute of our daily lives to belong to them not us. They are coming for us.
If we let them have their way then life is a gutted, shelled, hollowed out pointless existence. Many can’t or won’t see it until it’s too late. May God help us all.
Those folks and the people who come at every single post with "no viruses" or "5G" should - on the whole - not be engaged (IMO).
You may have the wrong end of the stick. That “frankly” commentator is probably a bot and is definitely defending the virus rubbish — so is a “yes viruses” type.
I mean people like a) the commenter you referenced and b) those who myopically/single-mindedly respond to every article or tweet with some version of "there are no viruses," 'it's 5G/neuropoisoning," or "BIOWEAPON" aren't actually engaging in dialogue.
That article is a giant, raging bonfire of straw men.
Nass has become increasingly disgusting to me.
Nice work, Jessica.
Yes, many straw men but what she is asserting about NYC and other things is really no different from what most anti-mandate/medical freedom influencers, scientists, et al are saying.
It's astounding how many peol are either misguided, making stuff up, and/or are being directed by political or other interests on critical questions about early 2020.
We noticed Meryl set the article up with her series of assumptions as if fact, then asked for a debate as if she were neutral, after "nudging" her readers towards her own bias (that Tess is right and Yeadon wrong). Good job on this article. We almost responded point by point the second we saw her lame post this morning, but glad we didn't because your response is PERFECT!
i was going to do point by point also. but this is perfect.
i also very strongly support sitting down and hashing this out in person instead of being keyboard warriors, meryl nass has done great work bringing the the IHR amendments and WHO skullduggery to light, she's no dummy and is movable with data.
Agreed! Its so much better to have in person debates and each side bring their best evidence and then we can all have the opportunity to truly understand it all and finally get somewhere
However, I can understand someone's argument and still strongly disagree.
Disagreement doesn't necessarily signal misunderstanding.
For example, I understand very well what Pierre Kory is saying. I believe he is wrong and misguided at best.
I seriously doubt that he is just misguided. All evidence points to him consciously trying to misinform both sheeple and skeptics, depending on his audience. His background as vaccine enabler working for the CDC from '95-'98 and as simulation doctor later on indicate a much darker background.
I disagree. What she has done is to get people watching the WHO show while time runs out when the whole country should get out of the WHO and its mother the UN right now. She is the equivalent of the magicians distracting hand while the magic trick is done.
The UN and WHO are nothing but skullduggery so this is not such a reveal. Anyone who believes otherwise believes that the lepoard can change its spots (and maybe its sex too now-a-days).
She believes in the childhood vax schedule which should tell you how much of a dummy and how movable she is.
totally agree that we not only need to get out of the UN and WHO, we need to seize their assets under RICO. lots of people getting sick and dying and this would be a badly needed source of revenue to find out how to heal them.
i discovered meryl nass back in the zeros when she had her anthrax vax blog - she seemed to be pushing hard against vaxes in general, do you have info I don't?
I do not remember where I have heard it but probably CHD or some other podcast. If I remember correctly she was against the bad anthrax vax but not an anthrax vax in general. However, that she is with CHD which does not reject vaccinesand the childhood vax schedule but only the bad ones (whichever that is).
Watch this at 20 minutes into it to understand Nass and discover an amazing education. I cannot recommend Gigaohm more highly.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2135348683
Such a good description! Nass appears to be a world-class psychological warfare purveyor herself. She set up so many strawmen in that article that she emptied the alfalfa field!
LOL
Nass has been bought up by the RFK jr cartel.
Unfollowed her for her fierce defence of the narcissistic lying pig, Malone, her friend :D
This comment of hers loses me:
"The camp I was in hated the vaccinated camp because the other guys wanted to put us into concentration camps, force vaccinate us, and throw us out of polite society.”
There were plenty of people who would have been happy to throw her, and me, into concentration camps, but many more who were vaccinated did so only to travel, work or attend school. They believed what they were told about how great the vaccines were, and how deadly the virus was. I think they far outnumber the “throw them out of society” types, at least 10 to 1 and probably more like 100 to 1.
I certainly don’t hate them, I feel compassion for them because they were lied to, and I hope they do not have health problems as a result.
And I don’t even hate the first group, but I do want them to understand what happened, so that it won’t happen again.
Agreed https://x.com/Wood_House76/status/1783499307204640928
I read the link, I’m surprised that Naomi Wolf could be so callous as to say everyone could have walked away. Not many people are an author/public figure like her, but have a family and bills to pay. Those are the ones most deserving of sympathy.
That’s perfect. It’s one thing to put your health—maybe your life and almost everything you hold dear— on the line for a good reason, but for a fraudulent one?
I agree. No one ever said a word to me in that regard and I was really vocal about it here in NY. The majority of people are not in this camp. They just felt they themselves had to for whatever reason. It was all media spun. As I believe the majority are not in the “pro hamas” protester camp. They know this. They have to use something they know the majority are against to slip in whatever it is they really want as an end result. In this current outrage arena, subject matter aside, it seems likely that Govt actors are involved and a few idiot college kids are pawns. Oh and of course it starts at Columbia in NY as Jessica has so aptly points out with covid. Must stage in NY. Now it’s been spreading. What do you know. Today I heard a “Jewish Columbia student” who knows she probably is, explain that students were giving their student ids to non students who were swiping into the bldg bc they’re not checking faces. (Um exactly how many times did this happen? How many people got in like this. That just doesn’t ring true). So is that our initial soft sell? WELL, why don’t we just get student fingerprints or face scans or better yet eyes. We all know they’re hoping for eyes! Since college students took to covid tyranny so well let’s start here on the movement tracking. More laws, yes more laws. It would be to protect Jewish students after all. Safety! The majority are not down with what’s going on on campuses or how it’s going on, therefore what is it they are trying to get the majority to accept in the name of it?? If it’s all over tv there’s an agenda beyond the obvious. And so it churns to distract and slowly take away liberties bc there’s just too damn many people for each to have too much liberty.
I agree. I can count the number of people I know who are for sure unvaccinated and the number is less than 20. I regularly connect with ~100 people that I can figure out their “status”.
Not one vaccinated person I know has ever said “you should be <insert injustice>.”
At the worst, I’ve heard, “shut up you are insufferable.”
Or…
“It is what it is.”
That was the worst one. So disappointed with that dear friend.
The only people who have had the chutzpah to say dastardly shit to me were on TV, radio or Web.
I always try to keep that in mind when I get riled up by something someone is saying on some media platform.
Sadly, I encountered too many people who thought I should be denied health care, denied my bank account, denied access to grocery stores and finally, put in jail. I found a direct correlation between MSM consumption and degree of vitriol.
Where do you live?
You seem to confuse the requirement of utterance and acquiescense. Silence was acquiescense to the huge media narrative push to punish and possibly eliminate the unjabbed. Maybe you were lucky to be located in one of the jurisdictions that wasn't ground zero for the worse tyrannies of this period. I didn't need to hear physically-known-to-me persons verbalize horrendous fascist shit, I simply observed their actions, their compliance and enjoyment of "benefits" while huge swaths of society were progressively transformed into a digital pass permissions-based open air prison, with the most solitary confinement reserved for people who had the courage to resist this bald faced tyranny. I congratulate you if you happened to have your feet on the ground in a spot where the ratcheting loss of freedom was less observable or more palatable.
You want to talk hidden components of all-cause-mortality that I want to see addressed? The number of voiceless un-enumerated people who committed suicide under the dark cloud of this overwhelming pressure and well choreographed destruction of their lives. The ones swallowed by the machine without a sound. Those people will never be counted. At least the stomach churning elderly LTC murders, whatever was fueling the freak bumps and the skyrocketing reverse opium war casualties leave faint fingerprints.
I disagree with Jessica's comment on Wolf and McCarville above. I haven't read Wolf's part but I strongly disagree that it is or was a question of choice or inability to choose. It wasn't a choice, it was a moral imperative.
It was a moral imperative and it is a moral imperative for the present and the future. "Choosing to comply" to "feed your kids" excuse pales in comparison to all future generations living in a globalist surveillance prison planet of forever tyranny. This is the only real "greater good" issue on the menu among all the plastic fruit.
Previous generations would reservedly send their kids off to war, to their deaths, to protect their collective future. Now people make excuses about defaulting to existential needs (as an excuse for compliance) over morality and ethics in the era of greatest abundance in human history.
Those who followed the moral imperative had/have kids to feed and wives, and "adult responsibilities" and a lack of "privileged circumstances" and still went the correct direction.
The evidence that I see for what dispelled the veil of tyranny was the rise of the Trucker movements where real people with real mouths to feed put everything on the line (their jobs, their reputations, their personal property, their physical freedom) and marched on Parliaments to say, "No, we've had enough of this tyrannical shit", and a week or two later Ukraine kicked off and COVID was memory holed. No amount of internet posting or couching ones position in, "I had a lot of shit on the line" means much in comparison. I don't care much about your colorful marbles collection.
The fuckers who pulled this shit are still exacting retribution against those people who made the moral choice to resist. There is clearly widespread 21st century Zersetzung going on online and off. Some of those people "had the luxury of choice" are still in jail as we all pretend that there is some level of new normal in which we can debate those "choices" meanwhile the amount of delivered accountability remains indistinguishable from zero.
I agree, but your quote of hers was just one of the many straw men she used to try to persuade others of her narrative, not of what actually happened.
My comment:
The authorities fought tooth and nail on that point for reasons of profit and the necessities of rolling out their new product- the mRNA technology. Had nothing to do with any "effectiveness" narrative and all to do with the exigencies of the EUA.
Documentation showing GoF "work", slush funds of Daszak-Baric and all the rest prove nothing other than money laundering. It absolutely DOES NOT prove anything about release/escape let alone transmission of anything. That is a logical fallacy you have made there.
Adding to the falsities, of this most up voted comment, the alleged release/escape of the alleged pathogen proves nothing whatsoever about the "deadliness" of alleged pathogen and in fact the voluminous documentation provided over and over by Rancourt, Panda, Hockett et al show that there is absolutely ZERO evidence for a pathogen causing mass harm.
FURTHER even more evidence from Italy, UK, Scottish Covid Inquiry, NYC data and on and on tell us EXACTLY what did happen. It was MASS MURDER in hospitals via protocols. Are you not aware of any of this evidence that is being provided day in and day out?
This is what is called real evidence and documentation not ideologically driven speculation.
Those who are ignoring such evidence and continuing to promote the lab leak risk-additive are he problem as they are covering up the iatrogenic slaughter that happened in the hospitals all over the world in 2020.
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/if-the-good-guys-cant-resolve-their/comment/55272545
Excellent points. Hope we all hear back from Dr Nass.
A little off topic, but Midazolam has made some appearances here in the comments section - and I have been meaning to post this link from the policy wonks at The Financial Times (London) - April 2023 - mission accomplished?
"Shorter life expectancy gives UK pensions an unexpected windfall ...Forecasts could cut liabilities of private sector defined benefit schemes, industry figures say ... "
https://www.ft.com/content/8af4e821-1e14-4c6a-a98c-1b670851b38c
I saw another one re public pensions - of the sort: ~"experts baffled [by sudden drop of longevity] ... but we'll take it!"~ (that was the gist of it) - when the experts are "baffled" it's time to count your spoons as Dr Johnson once said (the spoon counting part).
And yes "baffled" experts (or doctors) is a definite term of The Lexicon - e.g. re: very recently, young adult cancer rates.
https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/cancer-young-people-doctors-baffled-49c766ed
and here they are "scrambling"
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/oncology/experts-scramble-to-understand-rising-cancer-rates-in-young-adults.html
There were many, many baffled experts back in Summer 2020 re: the dearth of Covid cases in Africa.
Beginning early in 2020 I saved many quotes and screenshots, and your comment reminded me of this:
“…a friend of mine who is a legit genius told me this in March 2020: ‘if you want to survive Covid, stay out of the hospital. You’ll know I’m right when third-world countries do better; it’s because they don’t have ready access to hospital care like the first world does.’”
Some 3rd world countries, like Cuba, refused the mRNA transfections and instead manufactured their own C19 vaccines. We sent Zpacks and vitamins to our family members, thank God no one died although many were very sick. Meryl has visited Cuba, she has a soft for Fidel Castro and his Communist regime.
Haiti, anyone?
I said if my cat had been put in charge of the entire affair everyone would have fared much better. Cat treats and chicken soup are better treatments than communism.
😂😂
At 17:20ish this discussion turns to the idea that the US Federal Reserve's "Happy Place" is a "quorum" of Baby Boomers dying pretty soon, especially the oldest and sickest. He didn't use the word "quorum" correctly, I can only assume he meant "majority." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aE2HF0jwJo
I did not work in hospital having had my privileges 'terminated without appeal' for declining to take my institutions mandated influenza vax in 2016. I did work in private practice and in urgent care throughout 2020. I saw nothing clinically that I'd never seen before except atrocious behavior by institutions and colleagues. I shunned the space suit and mask PPE and saw many sick respiratory patients but curiously did not get sick myself in 2020. I also never self tested for 'covid' pcr because I doubted the specificity of this assay. I quit urgent care after April 2020 because by then there were virtually no sick patients seen on my shifts that month, only dozens of asymptomatic municipal workers coming in for their mandated weekly nasal swabs so they could work. It was the most disgusting period in my 40 years as a physician.
Thanks? To clarify, you saw many sick patients when? Patients sick with...!
Thanks for that description of what you experienced during that period. And thanks for having the courage to stand against the mandated influenza vaxx in 2016. I stopped working in 2001. Prior to that, at least, it was unheard of to mandate a vaxx to healthcare workers of any type, at least as far as I knew then.
It was very clear from many published analyses over years of influenza hype that fluvax did nothing to mitigate either nosocomial transmission of influenza or health care worker absenteeism. My early career disabused me of any enthusiasm for flushots since my clinical experience as a "sentinel provider" demonstrated for me that jab recipients did worse or no better than abstainers.
Outstanding post!! Thank you!!
Wow! I am an MD of 40 years and have followed Nass as well as you. To see a so-called expert schooled by a smart questioning layperson in such a way is both fantastic and unbelievable. Her replies, if any, will be truely informative and revealing.
Thanks for replying to her.
All points well taken and well made in the spirit of scientific argument. Thanks from a skeptical NYC physician for this excellent post.
It would be enlightening to hear from a NYC MD skeptic what he/she actually saw in NYC during March/April 2020.
With specifics about the hospital
Yes, thanks for the edit. Did you see the comment later down by John H? Hopefully he will provide a proper reference for this as it is an interesting possible method of mass murder in the hospitals. It would also be of interest in regard to the ongoing buildout of the massive "5G" cell towers we are experiencing. In Southern California I'm seeing them being built especially near major transportation route.
No, I think it's a nonsensical theory
“Sinking ships” Gambit tracks since mortality demographic globally was above life expectancy yet public health began “no one is safe until everyone is safe” theory to keep lockdowns & closures, likely to keep the grift and fear campaign.
Re: “I’m not sure what you mean by "COVID". I’ve haven’t read, heard, or experienced anything to that which persuades me that “COVID-19” is a unique, remarkable, or risk-additive illness.”
According to the Australian Government website: https://www.health.gov.au/topics/covid-19/about
QUOTE
COVID-19 is a disease caused by the coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2 virus.
The symptoms of COVID-19 can range from mild to severe.
Some people recover easily while others get very sick. If you test positive for COVID-19 you can experience:
* fever
* coughing
* sore throat
* shortness of breath.
Some people do not experience any symptoms (are asymptomatic) but can still pass on the virus.
END OF QUOTE
Seriously!!!!!
That’s it?!?!?
Fever, coughing, sore throat, shortness of breath…
Common symptoms…
And for this they MANDATED ‘COVID-19’ vaccination in Australia!!!!
They coerced, intimidated and MANDATED ‘COVID-19’ vaccination for millions of people…
They trashed voluntary informed consent…
Nicely written and explained. My cudos for great work 👏
Jessica- I appreciate that you are debating professionally with Meryl. In this debate there are going to be differences of opinion but importantly consensus that we were unnecessarily controlled by the people that we should be able to trust.
Slam Dunk
How come no one's asking the most obvious question: "Where are Movement headquarters?"
If this Movement (capital 'M') is worth it's salt and worth fighting for there should at least be a P.O. Box.
I nominate myself as chief Movement slogan maker-upper. In the spirit of a unified front I say, "Independent Thinkers of the World Unite!"
Uh, wait.