H.V. Wyatt is relatively cautious in his conclusion; however, he was clearly of the mind that things from labs can escape "on" humans and spread between them.
"It is not possible to prove that the 1916 epidemic was caused by the escape of MV from the Rockefeller Institute. Neither can we know if there have been other escapes of poliovirus from laboratories. However it is a remarkable coincidence that a unique neurotropic strain of poliovirus was developed a few miles from an epidemic caused by a uniquely pathogenic strain of the virus. My theory would not be proved even if it could be shown that a Rockefeller worker had lived in Brooklyn. Nevertheless such an extraordinary epidemic requires an extraordinary explanation: it is the only suggestion to be offered so far. Correct or not, it provides a powerful message for everyone who works with pathogens."
The June 2011 publication came shortly "after" H1N1/Swine Flu and advances the belief lab-escaped pathogens can and have created significant mortality events.
It's never an outbreak of acute onset central nerve paralysis (poliomyelitis) from injecting the children with weirdo diphtheria or other mumbo jumbo quackzines, it's always 'a lab leak' -
"In 1916, New York City experienced a severe diphtheria epidemic, but it wasn't until later that widespread vaccination campaigns became prominent. While diphtheria antitoxin was available in 1894 and the Schick test for susceptibility was introduced in 1913, vaccination campaigns, particularly for children, gained momentum in the years following the 1916 epidemic."
In 1976, the national influenza quackzine roll-out was recalled due to accumulating reports of Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS). GBS in adults closely mimics the poliomyelitis in children.
When the quackzine campaigns is failing, the PR damage-control routine appears to be to spin the events into becoming some Sci- Fi lab leak cover-story narrative.
Sadly, then the deception become gospel, naively but automatically getting integrated into the cannon of emerging medical science, thus paving the way for the next cycle of: quaczkine campaign failure with severe adverse events> lab leak cover story. or some combination thereof.
Polio is not an infectious illness. When doctors spoke honestly, there were innumerable examples of single cases, all on farms, where pesticides or herbicides had been used In probably less than cautious ways. “Flaccid paralysis” often results from such poisonings. Some call that “polio”. Directives in how to name a certain set of signs and symptoms changed over time, immediately after “polio” “vaccine” campaigns in the USA.
I recall reading all this, though I don’t claim I could find the sources again.
Thanks, Mike. I posed some questions directly to Roman on his Substack that relate to my interest in the 1916 NYC event. (See update in my post above).
On a completely unrelated note -- but related to another scam -- there were two clinical trials for mRNA and influenza viruses that commenced prior to March 2020.
NCT03186781: Influenza HA Ferritin Vaccine, Alone or in Prime-Boost Regimens With Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccine in Healthy Adults and NCT03814720: Dose, Safety, Tolerability and Immunogenicity of an Influenza H1 Stabilized Stem Ferritin Vaccine, VRC-FLUNPF099-00-VP (H1ssF_3928), in Healthy Adults
Have you spoken to/about these some place...or do you know of anyone else who has?
It’s disappointing to see Suzanne Humphries drifting back toward virus mythology and lab-leak speculation—especially when Dissolving Illusions did so much to expose the environmental roots of paralysis outbreaks like NYC 1916.
The more grounded (and evidence-based) theory is that the so-called polio epidemics were triggered not by contagious pathogens, but by toxic pesticide exposure—lead arsenate, Paris green, and later DDT—all neurotoxic and used heavily in summer months when outbreaks peaked. This pattern aligns far better with the seasonal, geographic, and class-based distribution of paralysis than any elusive virus ever did.
Instead of reinforcing the virus paradigm—even in its lab-leak variant—we should be questioning the entire foundation. There’s never been convincing evidence that purified, isolated poliovirus caused disease in humans under natural conditions. Lab “passaging” and injection into monkey brains doesn’t prove causality—it only deepens the pseudoscience of virology.
Humphries had the chance on Rogan to finally elevate the pesticide theory into public view. Instead, we got another spooky tale about escaped monkey pathogens. It’s like swapping Silent Spring for Contagion.
Lab leak speculation keeps us trapped in a false binary: wild virus vs. lab virus. Meanwhile, the real culprits—industrial poisons, public health blunders, and medical scapegoating—stay hidden in plain sight.
Let’s not forget the actual “illusion” that needs dissolving: the virus itself.
H.V. Wyatt is relatively cautious in his conclusion; however, he was clearly of the mind that things from labs can escape "on" humans and spread between them.
"It is not possible to prove that the 1916 epidemic was caused by the escape of MV from the Rockefeller Institute. Neither can we know if there have been other escapes of poliovirus from laboratories. However it is a remarkable coincidence that a unique neurotropic strain of poliovirus was developed a few miles from an epidemic caused by a uniquely pathogenic strain of the virus. My theory would not be proved even if it could be shown that a Rockefeller worker had lived in Brooklyn. Nevertheless such an extraordinary epidemic requires an extraordinary explanation: it is the only suggestion to be offered so far. Correct or not, it provides a powerful message for everyone who works with pathogens."
The paper should also be read in view of his credentials and affiliations: https://loop.frontiersin.org/people/21852/bio
The June 2011 publication came shortly "after" H1N1/Swine Flu and advances the belief lab-escaped pathogens can and have created significant mortality events.
Matt Ridley's Lab Leak stance re: SARS-CoV-2 sounds similar to Wyatt's position on 1916 (Short version here: https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/matt-ridleys-believe-it-or-not)
It's never an outbreak of acute onset central nerve paralysis (poliomyelitis) from injecting the children with weirdo diphtheria or other mumbo jumbo quackzines, it's always 'a lab leak' -
"In 1916, New York City experienced a severe diphtheria epidemic, but it wasn't until later that widespread vaccination campaigns became prominent. While diphtheria antitoxin was available in 1894 and the Schick test for susceptibility was introduced in 1913, vaccination campaigns, particularly for children, gained momentum in the years following the 1916 epidemic."
In 1976, the national influenza quackzine roll-out was recalled due to accumulating reports of Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS). GBS in adults closely mimics the poliomyelitis in children.
When the quackzine campaigns is failing, the PR damage-control routine appears to be to spin the events into becoming some Sci- Fi lab leak cover-story narrative.
Sadly, then the deception become gospel, naively but automatically getting integrated into the cannon of emerging medical science, thus paving the way for the next cycle of: quaczkine campaign failure with severe adverse events> lab leak cover story. or some combination thereof.
Correct. It is cover story after cover story -- and almost no way they have achieved it without data fraud.
Polio is not an infectious illness. When doctors spoke honestly, there were innumerable examples of single cases, all on farms, where pesticides or herbicides had been used In probably less than cautious ways. “Flaccid paralysis” often results from such poisonings. Some call that “polio”. Directives in how to name a certain set of signs and symptoms changed over time, immediately after “polio” “vaccine” campaigns in the USA.
I recall reading all this, though I don’t claim I could find the sources again.
Thanks, Mike. I posed some questions directly to Roman on his Substack that relate to my interest in the 1916 NYC event. (See update in my post above).
On a completely unrelated note -- but related to another scam -- there were two clinical trials for mRNA and influenza viruses that commenced prior to March 2020.
NCT03186781: Influenza HA Ferritin Vaccine, Alone or in Prime-Boost Regimens With Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccine in Healthy Adults and NCT03814720: Dose, Safety, Tolerability and Immunogenicity of an Influenza H1 Stabilized Stem Ferritin Vaccine, VRC-FLUNPF099-00-VP (H1ssF_3928), in Healthy Adults
Have you spoken to/about these some place...or do you know of anyone else who has?
It’s disappointing to see Suzanne Humphries drifting back toward virus mythology and lab-leak speculation—especially when Dissolving Illusions did so much to expose the environmental roots of paralysis outbreaks like NYC 1916.
The more grounded (and evidence-based) theory is that the so-called polio epidemics were triggered not by contagious pathogens, but by toxic pesticide exposure—lead arsenate, Paris green, and later DDT—all neurotoxic and used heavily in summer months when outbreaks peaked. This pattern aligns far better with the seasonal, geographic, and class-based distribution of paralysis than any elusive virus ever did.
Instead of reinforcing the virus paradigm—even in its lab-leak variant—we should be questioning the entire foundation. There’s never been convincing evidence that purified, isolated poliovirus caused disease in humans under natural conditions. Lab “passaging” and injection into monkey brains doesn’t prove causality—it only deepens the pseudoscience of virology.
Humphries had the chance on Rogan to finally elevate the pesticide theory into public view. Instead, we got another spooky tale about escaped monkey pathogens. It’s like swapping Silent Spring for Contagion.
Lab leak speculation keeps us trapped in a false binary: wild virus vs. lab virus. Meanwhile, the real culprits—industrial poisons, public health blunders, and medical scapegoating—stay hidden in plain sight.
Let’s not forget the actual “illusion” that needs dissolving: the virus itself.