The spring 2020 daily death curves of Bergamo province, New York, and Chicago raise questions about whether the events can be reasonably blamed on sudden spread of the same pathogen.
Oct 15, 2023·edited Oct 15, 2023Liked by Jessica Hockett
I will add this to your excellent article- it is a very long comment with multiple links for those who wish to explore the vaccine issue re:Italy and how this was also a likely contributor to the degradation of already longstanding health problems in N Italy.
I would caution anyone to attribute any single cause- as it is with "disease" (note the quotatiuon marks) the creation of such things is almost always multi-factorial.
What is an unassailable fact is that the outcomes of what was witnessed in N Italy and NYC in Spring 2020 had zero to do with any unique viral pathogen, imagined or otherwise. And no sorry folks, no lab leak, no targeted aerosolized anything, no viral clones and no sci-fi movie scenarios.
Mass medical homicide, mass fraud and social devasatation wreaked upon the public via a campaign of terror waged against that public by their own governments who were doing the bidding of their masters- the financial oligarchs who run the show.
I will also add that in both NYC and N Italy it was absoutely the case that this "fast-spreading deadly virus" (RFK and many other "leaders of Covid dissent" wrongly argue that this was an actual phenomenon) amazingly steered clear of surrounding areas (suburbs and provinces) and almost exclusively impacted the poor, disabled and already institutionalized in only those specific urban locales.
Not only did this very wily and selective virus only impact specific jurisdictions but it targeted only specific places within those jurisdictions- mainly hospitals.
As well, this mercurial virii came and went like a summer storm- no lead in time and little to no residual impact.
Here's some information on Italy and vaccines in 2019. For those of us who study the history of vaccines and disease (vaccines cause disease- all of them) the patterns are easily recognizable.
In 2018 and 2019 there was an "inexplicable" rise in influenza and pneumonia cases in Lombardy.
Estimated cases of "sindrome simil-influenzale" in Italy between October 14, 2019 and mid-February 2020: 5,632,000. That is almost 10% of Italy's entire population that was supposedly sick with influenza between October, 2019 and February, 2020.
Shortly afterwards, beginning in March, as the number of "coronavirus" cases increased in Italy, the number of influenza cases decreased. I’m sure you can figure out why that happened.
Many elderly Lombards who were vaccinated in November 2019 began getting sick within a few days, as the region began to report very severe, strange pneumonia appearing in people. In Bergamo 185,000 doses of the influenza vaccine were ordered on October 21, 2019.
The 2019-2020 anti-flu and anti-pneumococcus campaign organized by the Health Protection Agency and by the ASST of the province of Bergamo in collaboration with the Family Doctors will start on November 4th.
"The primary objective is the prevention of serious and complicated forms of influenza and the reduction of mortality in groups at increased risk of serious illness - begins the medical director of ATS Bergamo Carlo Alberto Tersalvi - Patients aged 65 or over , and those included in the ADI / ADP programs or who are bedridden / disabled, can contact their doctor for free administration of the vaccine, at the times indicated by the individual doctor. Children and adults under the age of 65, belonging to risk categories, can contact the ASST Vaccination Center of residence, at the locations and times indicated by the Center itself.
“Last year 154,000 doses of flu vaccine were purchased and about 141,000 doses of vaccine were administered, of which about 129,000 to people over 65, with a vaccination coverage of 56.2% – explains Dr. Giancarlo Malchiodi , UOC Director of Community Preventive Medicine, Department of Hygiene and Health Prevention, Bergamo ATS – 185,000 doses of vaccine were ordered this year. The calendars with places and times for vaccinations are being defined by the ASST and will soon be available on the ASST sites themselves ".
The flu vaccination is offered free of charge to the following risk groups:
Individuals aged 65 or older (born in 1954 and earlier);
Children older than 6 months and adults suffering from chronic pathologies, such as:
– chronic diseases of the respiratory system; diseases of the cardio-circulatory system; diabetes mellitus and other metabolic diseases; tumors; chronic liver disease; kidney disease with chronic renal failure;
– pathologies for which major surgical interventions are planned; chronic inflammatory diseases and intestinal malabsorption syndromes; diseases of the hematopoietic organs and hemoglobinopathies; congenital or acquired diseases involving deficient antibody production, drug-induced or HIV-induced immunosuppression;
– neuromuscular diseases associated with increased risk of aspiration of respiratory secretions;
Children and adolescents on long-term treatment with acetylsalicylic acid, at risk of Reye's syndrome in case of influenza infection;
Women who are pregnant at the beginning of the epidemic season;
People living with high-risk individuals;
People hospitalized in health and social-health facilities for long-term patients;
In addition to the Bergamo vaccines, between December 24, 2019 and January 18, 2020, Lombardy also had a free vaccination program for meningitis. Over 34,000 people were given the meningitis vaccine. It’s also worth noting that Italy had been engaged in a mass meningitis fear campaign for a few years which had been highly controversial. All of the small towns where the vaccines were administered were located generally in the same area where the 11 small towns of the first cases of "Coronavirus" were reported, in Lombardy.
Another important fact is that between December 2019 and January 2020, 1.2 million influenza vaccines of a new type were also administered in the Lombardy region.
"The widespread distribution of vaccines through pharmacies and the good adherence of general practitioners are reaping good fruits. The influenza [vaccine] campaign launched by the ATS is in fact already recording record numbers, and is not yet completed. With this new model we have dispensed 1,183,660 vaccines in the entire Lombardy Region."
In one of the first episodes of the Corona Investigative Committee, an Italian doctor was interviewed who claimed in early 2020 colleagues called him, telling him "why are all the old people dying who recently got the flu shot?" This is the link to the video:
I greatly appreciate your inquiring mind, you have asked questions that I never even thought of and it has given me a new perspective on the covid insanity that took over our world in 2020. The bad protocols and 'viral deaths' cannot make up the death numbers quoted in these surges in New York and Bergamo, they came on so fast and furious that surely the hospital system would have imploded which I don't think could have been hidden from the public. I found the video helpful, I am a slow learner so I appreciate the visual aid. Thank you!
I'm just outside what's considered the Chicago area, and there was a ton of respiratory stuff that hit them city and went all the way up to Wisconsin in the fall of 2019. My oldest daughter got sick with something pneumonia-like in September of 2019, and the rest of the family followed - I was sick for basically all of October, and camee out of it very weak. No one knew what it was though. The local doctors in some places were wanting people coming in with the stuff to wear masks already, and there was at least one school in Chicago that was shut down for a week near Thanksgiving to try to get all the kids well. We were in Germany in early December; lots of stuff going there too, flew back to Chicago on Dec 15, and there were at least 15 people who were coughing and sounding sick... I've flown internationally since 1996, and have never experienced anything like that, even in the days of smoking sections.
The deaths in NYC were all caused by the care or lack there of. Maybe they filled the paperwork for the deaths at the same time given their total ineptness which allowed the paperwork to back up but as soon as they realized that each Covid-19 was a financial windfall they prioritize getting the paperwork done. Just a theory.
People tend to want to compare the questions you’re asking with the summations they’ve already arrived at themselves. What I find compelling here is how directly the comparison of the three locations deconstructs the supposed govt-media narrative. That’s the really vital bit.
Thanks for keeping your sights steady and focus aimed where it needs to be.
In my half-assed playing with model fitting the usmortality data, I get very different parameters for NYC vs Illinois. It wants something like a 40 day recovery period for IL to fit that slow bump, where the whole pandemic didn’t last that long in NYC. By that its not the same model dynamics to match each place. Implies not same thing.
I will add this to your excellent article- it is a very long comment with multiple links for those who wish to explore the vaccine issue re:Italy and how this was also a likely contributor to the degradation of already longstanding health problems in N Italy.
I would caution anyone to attribute any single cause- as it is with "disease" (note the quotatiuon marks) the creation of such things is almost always multi-factorial.
What is an unassailable fact is that the outcomes of what was witnessed in N Italy and NYC in Spring 2020 had zero to do with any unique viral pathogen, imagined or otherwise. And no sorry folks, no lab leak, no targeted aerosolized anything, no viral clones and no sci-fi movie scenarios.
Mass medical homicide, mass fraud and social devasatation wreaked upon the public via a campaign of terror waged against that public by their own governments who were doing the bidding of their masters- the financial oligarchs who run the show.
I will also add that in both NYC and N Italy it was absoutely the case that this "fast-spreading deadly virus" (RFK and many other "leaders of Covid dissent" wrongly argue that this was an actual phenomenon) amazingly steered clear of surrounding areas (suburbs and provinces) and almost exclusively impacted the poor, disabled and already institutionalized in only those specific urban locales.
Not only did this very wily and selective virus only impact specific jurisdictions but it targeted only specific places within those jurisdictions- mainly hospitals.
As well, this mercurial virii came and went like a summer storm- no lead in time and little to no residual impact.
Here's some information on Italy and vaccines in 2019. For those of us who study the history of vaccines and disease (vaccines cause disease- all of them) the patterns are easily recognizable.
In 2018 and 2019 there was an "inexplicable" rise in influenza and pneumonia cases in Lombardy.
https://www.ilgiorno.it/brescia/cronaca/polmonite-1.4339539?fbclid=IwAR07cscCKpvPwKTRbeU4BiaqypJxYwR1i8mQzDBnbaA9j6PNuoue46NWRs0
https://vocedimantova.it/cronaca/influenza-il-picco-sul-picco-boom-di-casi-di-polmonite-ospedale-poma-al-collasso/?fbclid=IwAR0MwoWsJ3gBzO9H1yjVW1z-8lOG87QK3H8fiwue2peGUKXsQtZyOKtmKmY
On February 25, 2020 this article was posted in one of Italy's largest newspapers, La Repubblica.
https://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina-e-ricerca/2020/02/25/news/_influenza_8_mila_decessi_all_anno_ma_e_sbagliato_paragonarli_al_coronavirus_-249546412/
Estimated cases of "sindrome simil-influenzale" in Italy between October 14, 2019 and mid-February 2020: 5,632,000. That is almost 10% of Italy's entire population that was supposedly sick with influenza between October, 2019 and February, 2020.
Shortly afterwards, beginning in March, as the number of "coronavirus" cases increased in Italy, the number of influenza cases decreased. I’m sure you can figure out why that happened.
Go here:
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/influenza/stagione-in-corso
Many elderly Lombards who were vaccinated in November 2019 began getting sick within a few days, as the region began to report very severe, strange pneumonia appearing in people. In Bergamo 185,000 doses of the influenza vaccine were ordered on October 21, 2019.
The 2019-2020 anti-flu and anti-pneumococcus campaign organized by the Health Protection Agency and by the ASST of the province of Bergamo in collaboration with the Family Doctors will start on November 4th.
"The primary objective is the prevention of serious and complicated forms of influenza and the reduction of mortality in groups at increased risk of serious illness - begins the medical director of ATS Bergamo Carlo Alberto Tersalvi - Patients aged 65 or over , and those included in the ADI / ADP programs or who are bedridden / disabled, can contact their doctor for free administration of the vaccine, at the times indicated by the individual doctor. Children and adults under the age of 65, belonging to risk categories, can contact the ASST Vaccination Center of residence, at the locations and times indicated by the Center itself.
“Last year 154,000 doses of flu vaccine were purchased and about 141,000 doses of vaccine were administered, of which about 129,000 to people over 65, with a vaccination coverage of 56.2% – explains Dr. Giancarlo Malchiodi , UOC Director of Community Preventive Medicine, Department of Hygiene and Health Prevention, Bergamo ATS – 185,000 doses of vaccine were ordered this year. The calendars with places and times for vaccinations are being defined by the ASST and will soon be available on the ASST sites themselves ".
The flu vaccination is offered free of charge to the following risk groups:
Individuals aged 65 or older (born in 1954 and earlier);
Children older than 6 months and adults suffering from chronic pathologies, such as:
– chronic diseases of the respiratory system; diseases of the cardio-circulatory system; diabetes mellitus and other metabolic diseases; tumors; chronic liver disease; kidney disease with chronic renal failure;
– pathologies for which major surgical interventions are planned; chronic inflammatory diseases and intestinal malabsorption syndromes; diseases of the hematopoietic organs and hemoglobinopathies; congenital or acquired diseases involving deficient antibody production, drug-induced or HIV-induced immunosuppression;
– neuromuscular diseases associated with increased risk of aspiration of respiratory secretions;
Children and adolescents on long-term treatment with acetylsalicylic acid, at risk of Reye's syndrome in case of influenza infection;
Women who are pregnant at the beginning of the epidemic season;
People living with high-risk individuals;
People hospitalized in health and social-health facilities for long-term patients;
https://www.bergamonews.it/2019/10/21/vaccinazione-antinfluenzale-a-bergamo-ordinate-185-000-dosi-di-vaccino
In addition to the Bergamo vaccines, between December 24, 2019 and January 18, 2020, Lombardy also had a free vaccination program for meningitis. Over 34,000 people were given the meningitis vaccine. It’s also worth noting that Italy had been engaged in a mass meningitis fear campaign for a few years which had been highly controversial. All of the small towns where the vaccines were administered were located generally in the same area where the 11 small towns of the first cases of "Coronavirus" were reported, in Lombardy.
https://bsnews.it/2020/01/18/meningite-vaccinate-34mila-persone-tra-brescia-e-bergamo/?refresh_ce
https://www.agora-bg.it/meningite-il-bilancio-34000-vaccinazioni-tra-basso-sebino-franciacorta-e-valcalepio/
Another important fact is that between December 2019 and January 2020, 1.2 million influenza vaccines of a new type were also administered in the Lombardy region.
https://www.bresciaoggi.it/territorio-bresciano/brescia/influenza-boom-di-vaccinazioni-1.7834787?refresh_ce
https://www.sanitainformazione.it/salute/lombardia-cresce-il-numero-delle-vaccinazioni-antinfluenzali-70-sinergia-tra-regione-e-federfarma/
"The widespread distribution of vaccines through pharmacies and the good adherence of general practitioners are reaping good fruits. The influenza [vaccine] campaign launched by the ATS is in fact already recording record numbers, and is not yet completed. With this new model we have dispensed 1,183,660 vaccines in the entire Lombardy Region."
https://twitter.com/GIALLO_GIALLO/status/1620850033376763909
In one of the first episodes of the Corona Investigative Committee, an Italian doctor was interviewed who claimed in early 2020 colleagues called him, telling him "why are all the old people dying who recently got the flu shot?" This is the link to the video:
https://ms-elektronik.info/content/26-ausserparlamentarische-corona-ausschuss-eng-untertitel
I greatly appreciate your inquiring mind, you have asked questions that I never even thought of and it has given me a new perspective on the covid insanity that took over our world in 2020. The bad protocols and 'viral deaths' cannot make up the death numbers quoted in these surges in New York and Bergamo, they came on so fast and furious that surely the hospital system would have imploded which I don't think could have been hidden from the public. I found the video helpful, I am a slow learner so I appreciate the visual aid. Thank you!
I'm just outside what's considered the Chicago area, and there was a ton of respiratory stuff that hit them city and went all the way up to Wisconsin in the fall of 2019. My oldest daughter got sick with something pneumonia-like in September of 2019, and the rest of the family followed - I was sick for basically all of October, and camee out of it very weak. No one knew what it was though. The local doctors in some places were wanting people coming in with the stuff to wear masks already, and there was at least one school in Chicago that was shut down for a week near Thanksgiving to try to get all the kids well. We were in Germany in early December; lots of stuff going there too, flew back to Chicago on Dec 15, and there were at least 15 people who were coughing and sounding sick... I've flown internationally since 1996, and have never experienced anything like that, even in the days of smoking sections.
Was it tied to the percent of people with colds treated with Remdesivir? Why was the Chicago patients treated with Remdesivir so early in 2020?
The deaths in NYC were all caused by the care or lack there of. Maybe they filled the paperwork for the deaths at the same time given their total ineptness which allowed the paperwork to back up but as soon as they realized that each Covid-19 was a financial windfall they prioritize getting the paperwork done. Just a theory.
People tend to want to compare the questions you’re asking with the summations they’ve already arrived at themselves. What I find compelling here is how directly the comparison of the three locations deconstructs the supposed govt-media narrative. That’s the really vital bit.
Thanks for keeping your sights steady and focus aimed where it needs to be.
"Chicago was announced its first COVID-19 case on January 23rd; Bergamo’s was a month later"
This should say "Chicago announced"
Thanks for all your hard work putting these together.
In my half-assed playing with model fitting the usmortality data, I get very different parameters for NYC vs Illinois. It wants something like a 40 day recovery period for IL to fit that slow bump, where the whole pandemic didn’t last that long in NYC. By that its not the same model dynamics to match each place. Implies not same thing.
A "virus" can't spread if it isn't real
"SARS and H1N1 appear to be testing phenomena. Even 1918 isn’t a definitive example. (A recent HART Group Substack article summarizes nicely)"
What are you attempting to say there?
Your use of terms like, " ... the purported novel deadly pathogen .. " detract from your credibility.
Viruses aren't real. All "disease" is nutritional perturbation, parasitic overgrowth or radio wave induced - but usually a combination.