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I was a teenager growing up in suburb outside NYC on 9/11. Knew at least 3 or 4 people who died in the towers. Fathers of classmates, people from the neighborhood, etc. Lived in NJ just across the river from NYC in Spring 2020. I did not know, or even hear of through friends or acquaintances, a single person dying during this purported spike in deaths. Further, after 9/11, everyone you spoke to shared stories of close family, friends, or acquaintances who died in the towers. For a while it was all anyone could talk about. There was nothing like this in 2020. It is bizarre and highly suspect.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

I unintentionally deleted my reply below.

Reposting:

To your point about knowing people who died on 9/11 but not in spring 2020 (an event with 10x the reported causalities of the WTC disaster https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city-says-it-experienced)

I ive in Chicagoland and had two associations with deaths that occurred on that day: Flight 93 passenger Todd Beamer graduated from the same high school I attended. (We didn't overlap...he graduated in 1985 and I in 1994).

Flight 11 passenger Jeffrey Mladenik was a part-time pastor at the church we were attending at the time: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/septemberweb-only/9-10-44.0.html I attended a memorial service that was held on the evening of 9/11/01 (or 9/12/01 - I can't recall which date).

We would not expect either you or I to have associations in that event but not in spring 2020. It doesn't make sense.

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

I and others asked our Chinese friends if they knew of anyone in China who died of Covid. We all drew blanks.

We than asked our expat friends there – mostly congregated in the ten biggest cities–the same question. Another blank.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

QED :)

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Crony19's avatar

Same here. I remained in Indonesia throughout the debacle. Not one local aquaintance could summon an example, just a puzzled look followed by “gak ada” (not have). A few examples were given to me about how doctors/hospitals kindly offering money to bereaved families if they accepted Crony19 as the cause of death for the death certificates though.

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Bellatrix's avatar

Whole thing such a greedy, money laundering, power-grabbing, hateful scam! I can’t believe that not only did most folks fall for it, they continue to believe it! Thank you for your relentless fight against this evil!

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Impressive American farmer. Physically strong and very bright.

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cattleman's avatar

I’ll take it as a compliment. The job requires physical abilities but age still fights me.

Having a bit of knowledge and thinking critically is easily attained today but far to many people do not seek it.

Just like the subject of this post right?

So many questions so few answers

Thank you

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

You are the real deal, my friend.

Into the very fires of Mordor.

This day we fight.

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cattleman's avatar

“Until they kill us”

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Sirka Sie's avatar

It is a huge compliment!

You have any sons?! Asking for my daughter (who will kill me if she reads this🤣)

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cattleman's avatar

Ha!

I actually do.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

There is hope after all!!🤣

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Meant as a compliment : )

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Sirka Sie's avatar

A man!! A rare sight these days!

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

I feel like I need to state that Steve is very happily married. :)

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Of course he is!!🤣

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

😂😂😂

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cattleman's avatar

Unfortunately, to many males have been drawn into a narrative that takes away their masculine nature.

It’s a real epidemic

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Slim pickings for my unvaccinated, Un-woke, smart-as-hell daughter!!!

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

And just like that, my substack has become Matchmaker.com

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Sirka Sie's avatar

😂🤣

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Mala's avatar

I have a couple of boys fitting a similar description to your daughter :-)

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Carol Crevier, RN MPH's avatar

I had a similar question regarding the freezing of the Pfizer products. ( the original specs were to keep them at -81 degrees Fahrenheit.

I live in the city of Chicago. There is a pharmacy approx every 5-7 city blocks. I was expecting to see many large commercial freezers delivered. Not one. I began to pray that all the vax would be ‘duds’ due to lack of appropriate handling. Well, we kind of know how that turned out….

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cattleman's avatar

We talk about this a lot around my area. My mom was an RN for years. She said it’s very fishy that they simply dropped the -18 freezer deal on the vax.

Weird

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

We should meet for lunch. Not kidding

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Sirka Sie's avatar

You should meet for lunch at my daughter’s new sandwich shop “The Little Kitchen on York”, food is on us and Cattleman can bring an unmarried son to meet said daughter! Of course we do live in Chinada so this may not be possible but one can dream!😂

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Dianne Kewin's avatar

Hopefully the collapse of the cold chain saved some people. Obviously not enough though. 🥲

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reality speaks's avatar

he has a point. Elderly & overweight I would guess avg weight over 200lbs that takes two if not three guys. Someone had to move them?

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Not only that, the movement of 27,000 more people dying than normal could not have been kept from public view.

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cattleman's avatar

Average adult American male today is 197.9lbs

Not a terrible deadlift for a decent in shape man pulling a bar in a gym.

Not at all easy to lift a limp body!!

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Elizabeth's avatar

How much of our life has been a masquerade? How many truths were hidden? How many evils covered up? I feel like Covid had lifted a huge blanket off our selves and we are beginning to see our government with new eyes. And it’s not pretty. And it’s not what I want for my children or grandchildren. We must all get involved and demand things change. My thought is that we move away from big government as quickly as possible and focus more on local government where they are move more physically and mentally aware of the people they serve.

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MK's avatar

The take-away? City dwellers who "work out" lots but almost never work (physical labor) are easier to run an op on than people who live and work in rural areas? Two factors up for discussion in that guess; there may be others.

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cattleman's avatar

Interesting!

I agree

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xkry's avatar

Re: the political affiliation. A fun exercise I developed was asking everyone, everywhere I went (I pestered every Costco employee I passed by, etc) "Hey has anyone here at your job died or been hospitalized of COVID yet?" It's always ZERO. But follow up with, "Do you know of *anyone* who died of COVID?" it's either "zero" or "35". Nobody claiming to know anyone who died of COVID ever has a plausible number like "1" or "2". It's always an exasperated look and snort with a "no" or "nobody" or some wildly implausible number like "16" or "42".

Another one is doctors and nurses who work in hospitals. It's either "nobody" or "dozens of patients at my hospital alone." But nobody who *works* in the hospitals ever seems to "die of COVID", just the people brought into them.

It basically was "The Emperor's New Clothes."

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Dr. Flurm Googlybean's avatar

Well its much easier to do that work when its only going to be viewed through TV screens.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Indeed.

Also and when you only have to show people numbers in a spreadsheet as "proof of death" and get the best statisticians, computer scientists, modelers et al to say that all-cause mortality is unassailable.

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Dr. Flurm Googlybean's avatar

Have you tried assailing the bumps from surrounding counties/states?

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

I can't focus on everything. My approach has been to study the outlier - exception proves the rules. If it didn't happen there, it didn't happen anywhere.

Remember too that I gather a lot of different kinds of data, not just cases/hospitalizations/deaths. Places like New York City and Chicago are fairly straightforward because it's easy to deal with the agencies. When you start going into NYC metro/NJ etc, you now have more county/entities to deal with.

https://x.com/Wood_House76/status/1721714019961028994

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Arne's avatar

In books about European cities that endured plague and other epidemics before 1800, you read about decomposed bodies being taken out of caskets and reburied in mass graves because room had to be created for the influxes of thousands of new bodies. Paris is one example.

People weren't arguing about whether what the mayor and his officials said was happening, was in fact happening.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I also remember a story on the news on how they created a mass burial site by some island or something in NYC.

I thought that was really odd because wouldn't they cremate if there's no will or family to decide?

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Free Mayonnaise's avatar

I can tell you where all the bodies were stored and where they went. It's pretty obvious. They all got taken down to the docks and placed on the empty medical emergency hospital ship "USS Preposterance". When they were all full up they just floated off out to sea and out of the consciousness of all the brains like it never happened.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

That ship has 1,200 beds, if I recall correctly.

Try again :)

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Free Mayonnaise's avatar

It was sarcasm!

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

The Uss what?! I think you meant the Comfort. It's westcoast Twin is the Mercy. I've been on the Mercy along time ago and although it's big, it's NOT that big.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Yes, I was referring to the Comfort

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Free Mayonnaise's avatar

Woosh! The USS Preposterance is a real fake medical ship worthy of a preposterous medical emergency narrative. It docks right next to Princess Cruises' Death Princess.

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Gunther Heinz's avatar

Good point (but I'd have to point out that at 75 lbs. those bales have way too much moisture, at least in Pennsylvania).

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Duchess's avatar

I think that is indeed the answer. Never happened.

Wonder if we can follow the money?

That flowed into the official statistics keepers in nyc?

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