We spoke with a reporter from the Bergamo area in ‘21. He marveled at the fact that there was steady train service from Rome and other heavily populated areas to the Bergamo region yet no “virus bombs” ever went off outside of Bergamo. The military trucks were clearly fear generators he said (with no evidence of them being full), not to mention the men in bunny suits spraying “something” on the streets. We also can’t forget the Amish community not far from NYC, where nothing happened while they carried on with life as usual. A naturally spreading deadly novel highly contagious virus is simply not consistent with these and many other observations.
Jessica and Jonathan, thank you for your diligence in uncovering the sadness of the mass fear campaign which I also like to call the "covid event". I only post occasionally but I read all of your postings - albeit sometimes quite hastily.
My comment applies to many posts, not just this one. I would like to give you and your readers a possible reason why more people died during the "covid event" than in usual years. I agree that the number of extra deaths may have been greatly exaggerated, but I also know there were also a large number of people who died more quickly than they otherwise would have.
I have been a hospice doctor for over twenty years so I have an inside view of the final chapters of life. Our goal in hospice is for people to have a peaceful letting go, with minimum unfinished business. As you might guess this is often challenging for all of us, myself included. One might think that "physician assisted suicide" allows more peaceful deaths, but actually this is generally false. It generates complicated grief patterns in those left behind, with much "unfinished business" left to untangle. It also prevents spiritual experiences that often happen as people approach end of life, which are generally beneficial to the person as well as loved ones.
When people are nearing end of life, they are held in place by multiple threads. Threads such as: adult children, caring caregivers, and sometimes worries about how their families will cope. These threads can hold people in place for many years, even if they are bedbound and totally dependent on caregivers the entire time.
How does this relate to the "covid event"? The ghost-towns that were created in facilities gave people permission to let go of these threads - one could also say the threads were broken. Many facilities had to close suddenly, and all the residents relocated to other facilities by the military or health departments, which happened all over the world. Other facilities barely stayed afloat with as few as 20% of normal staff, in already understaffed facilities.
One place people did better was in homecare - loved ones were suddenly working from home allowing better supervision. However, if a person was hospitalized it was often difficult for them to make it back home again.
Although death is a spiritual release, much business was left unfinished by this event, like creating whirlpools that have an energy of their own.
One major whirlpool has been created by using these extra deaths to scare people into more isolation and forced medical treatments, ignoring adverse effects of these treatments and ignoring a fundamental principle of healing which is an individualized approach rather than "one size fits all". Your posts help us stay out of this particularly large whirlpool, and I hope you will continue posting. :-)
Thanks for this perspective; we don't often hear from doctors with expertise in hospice care/facilities. "Threads" is such a lovely way of expressing the complicated ties and decisions.
We haven't been able to locate setting of death data for Italy, which is unfortunate because that data is critical to analyzing the spring 2020 event in particular.
You may be aware that such data IS available for the U.S. (in CDC WONDER); I also obtained the daily POD data (all cause and COVID-attributed) for NYC.
In various articles, I've offered the following explanations re: the NYC pattern:
1) Many hospice facility beds were counted as hospital deaths (due to CARES Act incentives for hospitals). This possibility is supported by Gov Cuomo's executive order in late March that allowed hospice beds to be regarded as inpatient beds
2) Hospice facility patients suddenly being sent home to die and hospital inpatients who would have been sent to hospice being sent home. This likely happened no matter what, but the speed of the NYC event was so fast - and the ambulance data so bizarre - that I'm not sure it's a significant enough contributor to account for the massive home death toll.
The thing about Bergamo is that there were attempts to produce just the kind of visual evidence that you are saying there should have been for NY. There were pictures of lines of coffins in a kind of hangar that circulated at least in social media, but that turned out to be from Lampedusa in 2013. Subsequently, Italian "fact-checkers" admitted that the pics were from Lampedusa but claimed that no official sources had circulated them anyway and hence the "fake news" was to suggest they had been used to create a false impression about Bergamo -- or something like that. See here, for instance: https://www.open.online/2021/12/31/foto-bare-bergamo-lampedusa-2013-bufala/ But there are tons of bizarrely contorted "fact-checks" like this.
More "officially", there was this convoy of military trucks allegedly transporting coffins out of Bergamo to be disposed of elsewhere: https://x.com/cristian_paroli/status/1240419231415570438. The caption reads "military procession to take the coffins out of the city". Were there really coffins in the trucks? Was there anything in the coffins? One version is that that the bodies were taken away from Bergamo to be cremated elsewhere. In that case, would they really have been put in coffins? Who knows... If you're very diligent about looking, you can still find traces of contemporary Italian commentators who were asking these sorts of questions or even dismissing the whole thing as "cinema". But my impression is that the sceptics have been largely purged from the internet....
Cinema indeed. As you say, nothing verifiable - just a bunch of staging.
With NYC, there were the same kinds of attempts; they simply took different forms. We gave the parked trucks and loading of a few bodies as examples in this article but I've elaborated in other articles, tweets, and threads just how extensive the [federal] effort with NYC on the propaganda side. CCP, Iran, and Italy propaganda was child's play - and more obviously suspect - than what the U.S. pulled off.
The "softball team"! LOL. Or the PJ's, as they're officially known apparently! Did they parachute into Elmhurst? May have. If you read the quotes from the NYTimes in that article, they really make it sound like a foreign country, and for most NYTimes readers it is. Like DJT, I used to live right near Elmhurst, though I can't say I'm from Queens...
The good news is humanity can strike back and is in the position to demand officials release death records substantiating that this event took place as presented by government data.
Shouldn't deaths "held back" and then dumped into the system all at once create a sort of trough before the spike? Or wouldn't the numbers be enough to create that effect?
An alternative would be "something" artificially inserted into the populations in those few locations to create a real mortality spike, (let's refer to it as a bioweapon for want of a better description), which might've create a sudden and short term mortality increase rather than resulting from a spreading pathogen. Because let's face it, the "spreading" (or not) of whatever it was was always problematic to explain.
All that was needed was something to creating panic in the population (with the help of politicians and the MSM of course)
Thanks for the personal reply Jessica, and the links to your previous deliberations.
Why would there be more deaths on the run up to the 'mortality spikes' such as were seen in NY (spring 2020), it wasn't exactly the middle of winter where excess deaths might typically be expected, unless you're suggesting deaths were "held back" in very small numbers so as not to be seen as a "trough" before the spike, although the graphs don't seem to show that.
I doubt you will concur but I'm still of the opinion there was in fact "something" at large in the population from late 2019 onwards, something that wasn't imaginary but made many people ill with what was reported as "unusual" symptoms, and which took a fair number of them into hospital where incorrect or no treatment did them more harm than whatever had made them ill initially.
I know some people have alternative theories along the lines of "they were ill due to being told they were ill", ("encouraged" by media scare tactics), but I don't believe that fully explains what went on.
We spoke with a reporter from the Bergamo area in ‘21. He marveled at the fact that there was steady train service from Rome and other heavily populated areas to the Bergamo region yet no “virus bombs” ever went off outside of Bergamo. The military trucks were clearly fear generators he said (with no evidence of them being full), not to mention the men in bunny suits spraying “something” on the streets. We also can’t forget the Amish community not far from NYC, where nothing happened while they carried on with life as usual. A naturally spreading deadly novel highly contagious virus is simply not consistent with these and many other observations.
Well, we can't have a virus bomb going off in Rome, can we? Rome has to look like it did the right thing.
Jessica and Jonathan, thank you for your diligence in uncovering the sadness of the mass fear campaign which I also like to call the "covid event". I only post occasionally but I read all of your postings - albeit sometimes quite hastily.
My comment applies to many posts, not just this one. I would like to give you and your readers a possible reason why more people died during the "covid event" than in usual years. I agree that the number of extra deaths may have been greatly exaggerated, but I also know there were also a large number of people who died more quickly than they otherwise would have.
I have been a hospice doctor for over twenty years so I have an inside view of the final chapters of life. Our goal in hospice is for people to have a peaceful letting go, with minimum unfinished business. As you might guess this is often challenging for all of us, myself included. One might think that "physician assisted suicide" allows more peaceful deaths, but actually this is generally false. It generates complicated grief patterns in those left behind, with much "unfinished business" left to untangle. It also prevents spiritual experiences that often happen as people approach end of life, which are generally beneficial to the person as well as loved ones.
When people are nearing end of life, they are held in place by multiple threads. Threads such as: adult children, caring caregivers, and sometimes worries about how their families will cope. These threads can hold people in place for many years, even if they are bedbound and totally dependent on caregivers the entire time.
How does this relate to the "covid event"? The ghost-towns that were created in facilities gave people permission to let go of these threads - one could also say the threads were broken. Many facilities had to close suddenly, and all the residents relocated to other facilities by the military or health departments, which happened all over the world. Other facilities barely stayed afloat with as few as 20% of normal staff, in already understaffed facilities.
One place people did better was in homecare - loved ones were suddenly working from home allowing better supervision. However, if a person was hospitalized it was often difficult for them to make it back home again.
Although death is a spiritual release, much business was left unfinished by this event, like creating whirlpools that have an energy of their own.
One major whirlpool has been created by using these extra deaths to scare people into more isolation and forced medical treatments, ignoring adverse effects of these treatments and ignoring a fundamental principle of healing which is an individualized approach rather than "one size fits all". Your posts help us stay out of this particularly large whirlpool, and I hope you will continue posting. :-)
That's a fascinating comment...thank you for taking the trouble to write it.
Hi Matt.
Thanks for this perspective; we don't often hear from doctors with expertise in hospice care/facilities. "Threads" is such a lovely way of expressing the complicated ties and decisions.
We haven't been able to locate setting of death data for Italy, which is unfortunate because that data is critical to analyzing the spring 2020 event in particular.
You may be aware that such data IS available for the U.S. (in CDC WONDER); I also obtained the daily POD data (all cause and COVID-attributed) for NYC.
In late 2020/early 2021, I began observing deaths in hospice facilities did NOT go up in 2020 - they went DOWN.(One post with a simple graph and numbers: https://x.com/Wood_House76/status/1372404231966240771)
The same pattern was true during the NYC spring event. (See the first table in this article: https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city-spring-2020-emergency)
In various articles, I've offered the following explanations re: the NYC pattern:
1) Many hospice facility beds were counted as hospital deaths (due to CARES Act incentives for hospitals). This possibility is supported by Gov Cuomo's executive order in late March that allowed hospice beds to be regarded as inpatient beds
2) Hospice facility patients suddenly being sent home to die and hospital inpatients who would have been sent to hospice being sent home. This likely happened no matter what, but the speed of the NYC event was so fast - and the ambulance data so bizarre - that I'm not sure it's a significant enough contributor to account for the massive home death toll.
Matt, thank you for the very emotionally moving and insightful comment.
The thing about Bergamo is that there were attempts to produce just the kind of visual evidence that you are saying there should have been for NY. There were pictures of lines of coffins in a kind of hangar that circulated at least in social media, but that turned out to be from Lampedusa in 2013. Subsequently, Italian "fact-checkers" admitted that the pics were from Lampedusa but claimed that no official sources had circulated them anyway and hence the "fake news" was to suggest they had been used to create a false impression about Bergamo -- or something like that. See here, for instance: https://www.open.online/2021/12/31/foto-bare-bergamo-lampedusa-2013-bufala/ But there are tons of bizarrely contorted "fact-checks" like this.
More "officially", there was this convoy of military trucks allegedly transporting coffins out of Bergamo to be disposed of elsewhere: https://x.com/cristian_paroli/status/1240419231415570438. The caption reads "military procession to take the coffins out of the city". Were there really coffins in the trucks? Was there anything in the coffins? One version is that that the bodies were taken away from Bergamo to be cremated elsewhere. In that case, would they really have been put in coffins? Who knows... If you're very diligent about looking, you can still find traces of contemporary Italian commentators who were asking these sorts of questions or even dismissing the whole thing as "cinema". But my impression is that the sceptics have been largely purged from the internet....
Yep, I've seen these and have those & others in my files under a "Bergamo propaganda" heading. Great point about coffins and cremation.
Here's another fun one: https://x.com/Wood_House76/status/1759353303287075002
Cinema indeed. As you say, nothing verifiable - just a bunch of staging.
With NYC, there were the same kinds of attempts; they simply took different forms. We gave the parked trucks and loading of a few bodies as examples in this article but I've elaborated in other articles, tweets, and threads just how extensive the [federal] effort with NYC on the propaganda side. CCP, Iran, and Italy propaganda was child's play - and more obviously suspect - than what the U.S. pulled off.
Don't forget Hart Island:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1776662453142581554.html
The National Guard using Enterprise rental vans:
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-national-guard-assists-nyc-removing-dead-bodies-homes-2020-4
And bodies being moved out of state: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/nyregion/coronavirus-deaths-cremation-mortician.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ck4.Wcah.e1PYxFb8aUnE&smid=url-share
The softball team, I mean pararescuemen, at Elmhurst (whose smiles are exactly what we would expect in an unprecedented mass casualty event...right?)
https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article-View/Article/2206664/new-york-national-guard-pararescuemen-aid-queens-hospital/
DJT on the White House lawn describing body bags. https://x.com/Wood_House76/status/1819343185685963184
I could go on...
(The show must go on...right?) :)
The "softball team"! LOL. Or the PJ's, as they're officially known apparently! Did they parachute into Elmhurst? May have. If you read the quotes from the NYTimes in that article, they really make it sound like a foreign country, and for most NYTimes readers it is. Like DJT, I used to live right near Elmhurst, though I can't say I'm from Queens...
Thanks for all that!
“ Nobody really witnessed anything that could have generated 10x the number of deaths in the World Trade Center.”
Excellent point.
Thanks.
The federal government created (what I call) a closed system event.
This effectively ensured that no one person on the ground could either refute or confirm the scale of the event.
All of it Fraud! Until this horrific core crime is exposed, the rest is dog a and pony show. This is ground zero of “operation fuck humanity”
The good news is humanity can strike back and is in the position to demand officials release death records substantiating that this event took place as presented by government data.
Shouldn't deaths "held back" and then dumped into the system all at once create a sort of trough before the spike? Or wouldn't the numbers be enough to create that effect?
An alternative would be "something" artificially inserted into the populations in those few locations to create a real mortality spike, (let's refer to it as a bioweapon for want of a better description), which might've create a sudden and short term mortality increase rather than resulting from a spreading pathogen. Because let's face it, the "spreading" (or not) of whatever it was was always problematic to explain.
All that was needed was something to creating panic in the population (with the help of politicians and the MSM of course)
No, not if there were more deaths in the preceding weeks/months than shown.
I don't like the term bioweapon for reasons explained here: https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/opinions-on-the-use-of-bioweapon
We have addressed the "localized poisoning" idea here: https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/the-possibility-of-a-poisoning-event
You don't need anything except a story/propaganda, a test, a bit of excess death, and numbers on a screen
Thanks for the personal reply Jessica, and the links to your previous deliberations.
Why would there be more deaths on the run up to the 'mortality spikes' such as were seen in NY (spring 2020), it wasn't exactly the middle of winter where excess deaths might typically be expected, unless you're suggesting deaths were "held back" in very small numbers so as not to be seen as a "trough" before the spike, although the graphs don't seem to show that.
I doubt you will concur but I'm still of the opinion there was in fact "something" at large in the population from late 2019 onwards, something that wasn't imaginary but made many people ill with what was reported as "unusual" symptoms, and which took a fair number of them into hospital where incorrect or no treatment did them more harm than whatever had made them ill initially.
I know some people have alternative theories along the lines of "they were ill due to being told they were ill", ("encouraged" by media scare tactics), but I don't believe that fully explains what went on.
All the best, thanks again for the links.
I have written extensively on this. Please go to web browser version of site and see NYC tab